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Stef1979 · 06-03-2008 02:38PM

thanks for those links, i'll look into them
I'l stick a photo of the case up later so you guys can make sure the same doesnt happen to you...anything with the button clasp...the button is lined up with the bit where your ear goes and there is no glass

will keep ya posted:(

Basq · 06-03-2008 02:59PM

The price difference essentially depends where you're buying (and the rate of exchange to the currency used):

Ireland = €399 / €499
US = $399 / $499

They all have contracts.. think France or Germany are selling them sim-free but they're NOT cheap!

Oafley Jones · 06-03-2008 03:01PM

GaryCocs wrote: »

Hi Lads,
Not sure if this is the right place to post this but my buddy is going to canada, I am a regular ebayer and the iphone is coming to Ireland.
Where is the cheapest place to buy one at the moment?
Nice one
Gary

Given the exchange rate the States is the cheapest. Also, the iPhone isn't on sale in Canada.

higster · 06-03-2008 03:43PM

Stef1979 wrote: »

thanks for those links, i'll look into them
I'l stick a photo of the case up later so you guys can make sure the same doesnt happen to you...anything with the button clasp...the button is lined up with the bit where your ear goes and there is no glass

will keep ya posted:(

Theres a guy at top of William St in Limerick that MIGHT be able to help...pm me if you want his number

randombar · 06-03-2008 03:46PM

Ya I saw that on apple.ca. been reading a lot about em and definitely wanna make the plunge!

Bit like yer man here: http://derfen.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/former-apple-atheist-turns-apple-agnostic/

ec18 · 06-03-2008 03:52PM

How would you get an american I phone to work in Ireland?....are the sims standard size?

randombar · 06-03-2008 03:54PM

sims are standard and it's very very easy!

MiCr0 · 06-03-2008 04:10PM

GaryCocs wrote: »

Ya I saw that on apple.ca. been reading a lot about em and definitely wanna make the plunge!

Bit like yer man here: http://derfen.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/former-apple-atheist-turns-apple-agnostic/

remember - its just a phone.........

swingking · 06-03-2008 05:00PM

The iphone is a mini computer, correct?

I also know that the iphone stores personal information: contacts, emails, and even apple account information.

Is there a likelyhood of your iphone being hacked using wifi or bluetooth; after all the password on the devices are the same.

Is it possible to change this password.

randombar · 06-03-2008 05:29PM

Hahaha true!

but it's also a gadget!!!!!!

Pacifico · 06-03-2008 05:31PM

How can you get it in the US? Isn't there a AT&T contract?

cdebru · 06-03-2008 05:33PM

Just a note on Ziphone 2.5

As I mentioned before I don't think people should use it to unlock 4.6BL iphones because it downgrades the bootloader to an unreversible version of 3.9.

Well last night I recieved a phone that someone had used Ziphone on and it has downgraded the bootloader.
It has also ****ed up the phone
Everything works except the phone which is kinda of important

I have tried everything on this phone every version of Firmware from 1.02 upto 1.14 in combination with every kind of baseband version and tried every known unlock I have SSHed over files replaced files removed file and the result is the same every time NO SERVICE.

There is no way to get the phone back to 4.6

This is exactly what I was warning people about with Ziphone it is a one way street once something goes wrong with the bootloader downgrade you are ****ed

Also proves that this is not a remote possibility nor was I scaremongering if anyone wants to do a google for Ziphone no service they will find plenty of people in the same boat.

tw0nk · 06-03-2008 05:46PM

cdebru wrote: »

Just a note on Ziphone 2.5

As I mentioned before I don't think people should use it to unlock 4.6BL iphones because it downgrades the bootloader to an unreversible version of 3.9.

cdebru, afaik you can use ziphone perfectly well to unlock phones without any need to downgrade bootloader to 3.9. that is an extra option in ziphone to do this if you want but not required, correct me if im wrong.

swingking · 06-03-2008 05:48PM

what's the best way of upgrading to and unlocking 1.1.4 without using ziphone.

or is there a way to use ziphone WITHOUT downgrading the BL

This is on a 4.6 BL

cdebru · 06-03-2008 05:51PM

tw0nk wrote: »

cdebru, afaik you can use ziphone perfectly well to unlock phones without any need to downgrade bootloader to 3.9. that is an extra option in ziphone to do this if you want but not required, correct me if im wrong.

No problem

Your wrong

On a 4.6 bootloader iphone Ziphone 2.5 will not unlock the phone without downgrading the bootloader to zibris 3.9BL

You can go into advanced options and unselect downgrade bootloader but it just wont unlock the phone at all

cdebru · 06-03-2008 05:59PM

swingking wrote: »

what's the best way of upgrading to and unlocking 1.1.4 without using ziphone.

or is there a way to use ziphone WITHOUT downgrading the BL

This is on a 4.6 BL

You have a couple of options
This is a safer way to downgrade the bootloader and is reversible if you want to go that road
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=760

You can use independence if you have a mac

Tutorial on hackthatphone.com

Or if you really want to use Ziphone you can use 2.5 to activate and jailbreak and then use 2.4 to do the unlock

or you can get the alternative GUI for Ziphone 2.5 called eziphone that allows you to unlock without the bootloader downgrade

tw0nk · 06-03-2008 06:19PM

oh so its just 2.5 that does this!? ah thats grand so

Basq · 06-03-2008 06:31PM

Pacifico wrote: »

How can you get it in the US? Isn't there a AT&T contract?

Just go into an Apple store.. they don't care!

lee_baby_simms · 06-03-2008 06:41PM

basquille wrote: »

Just go into an Apple store.. they don't care!

I've a friend going over to the US next week. So can he just go into a radio shack or a circuit city or whatever and pick one up without a contract?

I've been told by a few people that you have to give your details over.

Rob C · 06-03-2008 06:57PM

Major news with the SDK.

Activesync and Exchange for the iPhone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob C · 06-03-2008 07:04PM

AIM is on!

EA are developing games for the iPhone starting with Spore!

Some pics...

iPhone simulator!

AIM

Rob C · 06-03-2008 07:17PM

This is the way you will download Apps. From an App store on Apple.

Many will be free. Sega are now presenting at the conference! They have everyone involved it seems. And for business users Salesforce.com...

The Mac Evangelists are getting all giddy saying this makes the iPhone a Blackberry killer....

derfen · 06-03-2008 07:22PM

In the US, you purchase them either at an Apple store or an AT&T dealer. Either way, you just buy the phone; no contract, nothing. I walked in, handed over the cash, no details/contracts/accounts required,. When i started asking the guy about firmware versions and stuff, he knew i wanted to unlock it for another carrier (T-Mobile), and he didn't care.
I wanted one with the 1.1.3 firmware 'coz i knew i could unlock it easily, and so thats what i got (it had been shipped to the store 10 days before they released 1.1.4 firmware ). Any newer ones the stores have now are shipping with the 1.1.4 firmware but as far as i'm aware there are already unlocking tools out for the newer 1.1.4 firmware.

Standard pricing is $399 for the 8GB & $499 for the 16GB.
Also, remember, in the states that price is before tax, and some states have lower retail tax-rates than others, so it's possible to save a few bucks depending on what state you buy it in.

derfen

deecom · 06-03-2008 07:55PM

cdebru wrote: »

Just a note on Ziphone 2.5

As I mentioned before I don't think people should use it to unlock 4.6BL iphones because it downgrades the bootloader to an unreversible version of 3.9.

Well last night I recieved a phone that someone had used Ziphone on and it has downgraded the bootloader.
It has also ****ed up the phone
Everything works except the phone which is kinda of important

I have tried everything on this phone every version of Firmware from 1.02 upto 1.14 in combination with every kind of baseband version and tried every known unlock I have SSHed over files replaced files removed file and the result is the same every time NO SERVICE.

There is no way to get the phone back to 4.6

This is exactly what I was warning people about with Ziphone it is a one way street once something goes wrong with the bootloader downgrade you are ****ed

Also proves that this is not a remote possibility nor was I scaremongering if anyone wants to do a google for Ziphone no service they will find plenty of people in the same boat.

Ah yes, that would be my phone then! It will be a nice 4gb ipod now i guess. It really is that easy screw up you phone using Ziphone, be warned!

P.S Thanks cdebru for having a look at it.

rc28 · 06-03-2008 08:50PM

cdebru wrote: »

Just a note on Ziphone 2.5

As I mentioned before I don't think people should use it to unlock 4.6BL iphones because it downgrades the bootloader to an unreversible version of 3.9.

Well last night I recieved a phone that someone had used Ziphone on and it has downgraded the bootloader.
It has also ****ed up the phone
Everything works except the phone which is kinda of important

I have tried everything on this phone every version of Firmware from 1.02 upto 1.14 in combination with every kind of baseband version and tried every known unlock I have SSHed over files replaced files removed file and the result is the same every time NO SERVICE.

There is no way to get the phone back to 4.6

This is exactly what I was warning people about with Ziphone it is a one way street once something goes wrong with the bootloader downgrade you are ****ed

Also proves that this is not a remote possibility nor was I scaremongering if anyone wants to do a google for Ziphone no service they will find plenty of people in the same boat.

I'm on 1.1.1 (came out of the box like this), is it safe for me to use ziphone considering I most likely have the 3.9BL rather than the one that gets downgraded? My brother is on 1.02 and I understand this version needs to be virginized first though, does he do this through installer?(I saw a package called 1.02 virginizer).

cdebru · 06-03-2008 09:16PM

rc28 wrote: »

I'm on 1.1.1 (came out of the box like this), is it safe for me to use ziphone considering I most likely have the 3.9BL rather than the one that gets downgraded? My brother is on 1.02 and I understand this version needs to be virginized first though, does he do this through installer?(I saw a package called 1.02 virginizer).

You are both on 3.9

But to be honest there is now an alternative to Ziphone

its Iplus
http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_114_true_unlock_windows.html

Thats how I would do it

On the 1.02

here is the way I do it

http://www.hackthatphone.com/111/iphone_repairing_baseband_windows.html

Rob C · 06-03-2008 09:38PM

cdebru

Stop trying to break up the glorious Zibri community!!!!

manupulator · 06-03-2008 10:35PM

basquille wrote: »

They all have contracts.. think France or Germany are selling them sim-free but they're NOT cheap!

There is no lock-free iphone in germany. there was one available for one week end of november at 999€ because of a lawsuit.

rc28 · 06-03-2008 11:08PM

cdebru wrote: »

You are both on 3.9

But to be honest there is now an alternative to Ziphone

its Iplus
http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_114_true_unlock_windows.html

Thats how I would do it

On the 1.02

here is the way I do it

http://www.hackthatphone.com/111/iphone_repairing_baseband_windows.html

Thanks a million but the 1.02 thing looks unnecessarily complex. Does anyone know anything abuut the 1.02 virginizer that's found in installer?

120_Minutes · 06-03-2008 11:14PM

Unlikely via Bluetooth, as the iphone only supports headsets via bluetooth and not data transfer. Not sure about wifi though.

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