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Teens torture disabled woman

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    26 according to the profile. You should look yourself if you don't believe me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Wacker wrote: »
    Wow, thirty posts and I'm the first person to mention this: there is no mention whatsoever of the severity of the victim's injuries.
    Draw whatever conclusions you will from that.

    I'm going to be loved round these parts I reckon....
    Fair point. Probably cuts and bruises but imagine the psychological damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    Dudess wrote: »
    Fair point. Probably cuts and bruises but imagine the psychological damage.
    +1
    can you imagine how you'd feel if people did that to you.
    then add on the fact the poor girl had just gone through surgery...
    this kinda stuff is horrible. :mad:
    The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness.
    Joseph Conrad


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 290 ✭✭Tak3n


    Maybe she just needed a hair cut ?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 69,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    I'll vote for Dragan also!!;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    hopefully they will be sent to jail and will suffer much worse themselves


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    Sick Bastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Dragan wrote: »
    I disagree. If you can't function as part of healthy society then you should be removed. Thats my honest opinion.

    Certain crimes are way above and beyond any kind of rehab and apology and i would put torture right up there as one of them.

    No, I'll agree.

    But if its something in 'functioning' society that helped bring this about we owe it to ourselves to find out what. Everything happens for a reason.

    When I've exhausted my list of questions or grow bored, then you may kill them. May I suggest a .45 slug though? Much more satisfying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    Labour camps ftw.

    The sort of ones with suspicious looking chimneys and the follwoing sign over the main gate.

    Work shall set you free*






    *In the spiritual and very non literal sense of the word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    Order Tina Turner out of retirement. Then construct a Thunderdome.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭Lirange


    When you have both Ruu and the person organising the Free Hugs Campaign in favour of acting out Charles Bronson in Death Wish ... you know they must be twisted scumtwats of epic proportions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Tak3n wrote: »
    Maybe she just needed a hair cut ?
    Yawn.

    Everyone, ignore this renowned troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Lirange wrote: »
    When you have both Ruu and the person organising the Free Hugs Campaign in favour of acting out Charles Bronson in Death Wish ... you know they must be twisted scumtwats of epic proportions.

    Pretty much sums it up. I'm a pretty understanding guy, but i will never understand picking on the weak just for laughs.

    It makes you a coward, a bully and a sadist. Never really liked any of those three things.

    With regard to the labour camps i still think that would be a bad idea. The rough cost of keeping ONE prisoner in the prison system, regardless of status, is astronomical for one year. Forced labour is doing nothing more than costing us way too much money when we could be employing people who really want to work to do the same for a proper wage for CHEAPER then keeping these guys alive.

    I'm sticking to my guns (literally i suppose) but will happily upgrade to the .45

    With regard to a societal flaw being a possible problem we hear about plenty of kids with tough times doing fantastic things and kids with ever opportuinity doing the worst of things. While i understand as a functioning society it is important to break down these reasons to find a better way to deal with them it is a sad fact that this same functioning society will never be short of live subjects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    Dragan wrote: »
    Pretty much somes it up. I'm a pretty understanding guy, but i will never understand picking on the weak just for laughs.

    It makes you a coward, a bully and a sadist. Never really liked any of those three things.

    With regard to the labour camps i still think that would be a bad idea. The rough cost of keeping ONE prisoner in the prison system, regardless of status, is astronomical for one year. Forced labour is doing nothing more than costing us way too much money when we could be employing people who really want to work to do the same for a proper wage for CHEAPER then keeping these guys alive.

    I'm sticking to my guns (literally i suppose) but will happily upgrade to the .45

    With regard to a societal flaw being a possible problem we hear about plenty of kids with tough times doing fantastic things and kids with ever opportuinity doing the worst of things. While i understand as a functioning society it is important to break down these reasons to find a better way to deal with them it is a sad fact that this same functioning society will never be short of live subjects.
    i subscribe to your product/belief system.
    although bullets cost money too...
    may i suggest a sword or axe weapon? all you need do is sharpen it,and you get the personal touch,so to speak.
    torture is too good for those idiots. Plus Ruu is usually a peaceful little creature,so that goes to show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Disgusting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Order Tina Turner out of retirement. Then construct a Thunderdome.

    FTW. Best suggestion yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I say we should forgive them.

    Its the Christian thing to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Tanabe


    snyper wrote: »
    I say we should forgive them.

    Its the Christian thing to do.

    This is no time for cracking jokes. Imagine that was your wife/mother/sister those waste of space attacked.

    Although, to truly be free is to forgive, I'd truly forgive myself for any actions that fate had coming to those who acted in such a way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Someone mentioned this is passing earlier, and I've been thinking more about it. The two teens who tortured this poor woman have a child together. After what they've done, I certainly can't imagine anyone allowing them to raise a child. I would be afraid they would either subject the child to the same kind of treatment and/or raise the child to be like them - void of empathy and compassion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭Wossack


    tried as adults, no question


    then death by electric strimmers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    Well these individuals are definetely adding to the mounting pile of evidence in favour of the existence of anal births.
    Dragan wrote: »
    With regard to the labour camps i still think that would be a bad idea. The rough cost of keeping ONE prisoner in the prison system, regardless of status, is astronomical for one year. Forced labour is doing nothing more than costing us way too much money when we could be employing people who really want to work to do the same for a proper wage for CHEAPER then keeping these guys alive.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ship em off to south east asia for a stint in a proper prison. You save a fortune and help stimulate the economy of those less fortunate nations, as well as solving a serious social problem here. Nothing like being wedged in a ten by ten cell in the tropics with a half dozen other people jogging around in circles all day to provide air circulation for a few years to readjust your attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Jesus, I can't believe the number of people calling for the death penalty in this thread.

    There is no doubt that what they did was sick and depraved; it makes my blood boil and my stomach turn just to read about it. Punish them severely for what they did, sure; but kill them? That's crazy. The solution to violence is not more violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Punish them severely for what they did, sure; but kill them? That's crazy. The solution to violence is not more violence.

    Why not? If an animal is rabid we put them down. These guys clearly cannot function as members of society, ergo we owe them nothing. Why the hell should all work as law abiding folk who look after ourselves and our own and treat each other with respect when we're wasting good possible healthcare money on prison systems to keep scum like this alive?

    Waste of money.

    I'm all about Human Rights and such but some folk simply don't deserve the title.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 69,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    Wossack wrote: »


    then death by electric strimmers

    There's more power outta petrol ones!!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    life and hard labour

    sick twisted little skumbags

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Dragan wrote: »
    If an animal is rabid we put them down.

    You're dead right. And when my TV breaks I throw it in the skip. But these guys aren't animals or machines.
    Dragan wrote: »
    These guys clearly cannot function as members of society, ergo we owe them nothing.

    Says who, you? Many mentally ill people can't function as members of society either and need to be take into care. But you would have us kill them, right?
    Dragan wrote: »
    Why the hell should all work as law abiding folk who look after ourselves and our own and treat each other with respect when we're wasting good possible healthcare money on prison systems to keep scum like this alive?

    Again, am I to believe from this that you would have us kill every person who commits a crime? I don't think that's what you're tyring to say but what's the difference between these guys and other criminals? What about people who get bullied over a course of years in school or the workplace? That's far longer than a stretch of seven hours; you want we should kill all the people who bullied them?

    There's no doubt the crime committed is abhorent but who decides when it strays into territory where the perpetrator foregoes their right to life?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    so basically they know that they cant be hanged or they probably wont be jailed as teenage crime,abusing the remaining days before turning into 18?smart ass.

    hope they wont get away with that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Meh, I'm against the Death Penalty in any shape or form in our current society.


    I don't think we can violate our standards simply to punish people.


    It's what seperates us from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    You're dead right. And when my TV breaks I throw it in the skip. But these guys aren't animals or machines.

    True. I would trya nd recycle a machine. I would put down an animal. I don't consider either to be overly responsible for it's own actions, more it's functions and instinct. People? You know when your hurting someone, doesn't matter how bitter and twisted you are physical pain cannot be mistaken for anything put that.


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Says who, you? Many mentally ill people can't function as members of society either and need to be take into care. But you would have us kill them, right??

    Yes, i believe i actually said so twice. As for "mentally ill", like anything else there are varities of "mental illness" , once somebody does not end up in the column where there mental illness leads them to harm others then i have no problem with them.

    Cold? Sure. Just how i feel.


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Again, am I to believe from this that you would have us kill every person who commits a crime? I don't think that's what you're tyring to say but what's the difference between these guys and other criminals? What about people who get bullied over a course of years in school or the workplace? That's far longer than a stretch of seven hours; you want we should kill all the people who bullied them?

    There's no doubt the crime committed is abhorent but who decides when it strays into territory where the perpetrator foregoes their right to life?

    If you had been reading my posts you would clearly see that i talk about degree's in crime. The difference between any crime are the main two factors....what was it and why was it done. This was a sick torture that appears to have been done for nothing more than kicks. I don't see the participants having any possible fututre healthy part of society and frankly i firmly believe that some people and actions just don't deserve a second chance.

    As for you last sentence, if you want i'll decide. Sure, it won't be easy and decisions will no doubt weigh on me and possible have adverse affects on my health and sanity but i wouldn't ask anyone else to do it if i wasn't willing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    Dragan wrote: »

    With regard to the labour camps i still think that would be a bad idea. The rough cost of keeping ONE prisoner in the prison system, regardless of status, is astronomical for one year. Forced labour is doing nothing more than costing us way too much money when we could be employing people who really want to work to do the same for a proper wage for CHEAPER then keeping these guys alive.

    Remember that Turkish building contractor that was more than capable of building motorways at half the usual price through the simple expedient of not paying wages?

    I'd be talking about implementing the same sort of projects like the Famine relief works. Hard work on projects that aren't necessarily vital and would never get put to tender otherwise. If we have to pay for prisoners anyway they might as well be doing something.


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