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Teens torture disabled woman

  • 26-02-2008 04:55PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭


    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/26/disabled.women.ap/index.html

    CINCINNATI, Ohio (AP) -- Two teenagers hid overnight in a house and spent more than six hours torturing a disabled woman after her mother left in the morning, authorities said.

    Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones said the teenage boy and girl tied up the 18-year-old woman, clubbed her, kicked her, shaved her head and soaked her with water before making her walk barefoot outside in the snow.

    They also ignored pleas from the woman, who had undergone brain surgery, not to hit her in the head, investigators said.


    "This is one of the worst crimes I've ever seen," Jones said Monday. "They are sick animals, apparently just doing this for kicks and no other reason."

    Cheyenne Blanton, 17, and Joseph Nagle, 16, both of Hamilton, were arraigned Monday on juvenile delinquency charges that include aggravated burglary, aggravated robbery, kidnapping, felonious assault and vandalism, according to juvenile court officials.

    They were ordered held in the county's juvenile detention center pending a court appearance later this week. Neither entered a plea, and both requested court-appointed attorneys. Those attorneys had not been named Monday.

    The teens are accused of physically abusing Ashley Clark, 18, for more than six hours Friday at her home in Hanover Township, about 35 miles northwest of Cincinnati.

    Both Jones and the woman's mother, Sheila Clark, want the teenagers tried as adults, and Jones said the two could get 75 years to life in prison if tried and convicted as adults.



    It's appalling what some people will do to those weaker than themselves. I say that at 16-17 years, they knew full well what they were doing. I'd be all for having them tried as adults. Still, 75 to life... that would be quite a long term to serve.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Here they'd get six months probation.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,392 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Detectives apprehended the teenagers a few minutes later in nearby woods after following their footprints in the snow

    Real smart folks there alright. Assholes. Send 'em to Texas and fry them tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Heh, "Miek" ;)

    "Hanging's too good for them" etc. We all know that. Wonder what actually makes people do this sh1t though?
    Although thinking about that "John the ravin gay" video and the couple who locked a guy into their shed and tortured him for months over in England last year - both those guys had learning disabilities. Maybe it's simply because some people just love wielding power over those more vulnerable than them and making them suffer. Quite nazi-ish really.
    And why is the victim referred to as a "woman"? Yeah, I know 18 is officially adult but she's a teenager for god's sake - only a year and two years older than the perpetrators.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    They should be locked up for life. They're having a kid together so they'll probably get away with a ****ing slap on the wrist. Scumbags.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    thats pretty sick.they should deffo get 10-15 years each. sick f**kers:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Dudess wrote: »
    Wonder what actually makes people do this sh1t though?


    lack of hangings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Dudess wrote: »

    And why is the victim referred to as a "woman"? Yeah, I know 18 is officially adult but she's a teenager for god's sake - only a year and two years older than the perpetrators.

    I noticed that too... I was expecting her to be older when I first read the article. Strange that if the teens had been 18, and the victim 16 or 17, there would be no talk of trying them as adults - it would be automatic.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Bambi wrote: »
    lack of hangings?
    I believe they have the death penalty in ohio.
    How about...simple example of cruelty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Wtf were they thinking?!

    Thats just horrofic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Bah. Why waste millions of dollars to keep these **** alive in prison?

    Two 9mm rounds, the base of the neck out behind the boiler, then bury in unmarked grave.

    End.

    Vote for me and i will bring you Peace....Peace and FEAR! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    I agree the death penalty has it's advantages for cases as clear cut as this.
    off with their heads me thinks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 Midna


    Dragan wrote: »
    Bah. Why waste millions of dollars to keep these **** alive in prison?
    Two 9mm rounds, the base of the neck out behind the boiler, then bury in unmarked grave.
    End.
    Vote for me and i will bring you Peace....Peace and FEAR! :D

    Better yet, forced labour, why not make them pay their debt to society in a literal sense. Get 20 years work out of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Its not clear cut though. I'm sure you could explore these kid's upbringing and find out loads. Ask questions first; shoot later.

    I'm surprised nobody has considered locking up their parents yet for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    mike65 wrote: »
    Here they'd get six months probation.

    Mike.

    Well thats if the Guards even managed to catch them :eek: .....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Little Princess


    pretty sick news. :(


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    Its not clear cut though. I'm sure you could explore these kid's upbringing and find out loads. Ask questions first; shoot later.

    I'm surprised nobody has considered locking up their parents yet for example.

    See, thats balls I think. There doesn't have to be a reason. Maybe they just did it for the sheer sake of it. Also, why would the parents be locked up? It wasn't them that snuck into that poor womans house and did those horrofic things to her.

    They should have exactly the same thing they did to her. Karma.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well thats if the Guards even managed to catch them :eek: .....

    The lack of snow. You are right.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Overheal wrote: »
    Its not clear cut though. I'm sure you could explore these kid's upbringing and find out loads. Ask questions first; shoot later.

    I disagree. If you can't function as part of healthy society then you should be removed. Thats my honest opinion.

    Certain crimes are way above and beyond any kind of rehab and apology and i would put torture right up there as one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    Overheal wrote: »
    Ask questions first; shoot later.

    I like that and seriously think it is the way to deal with problems. It means the criminals aren't just killed and we learn nothing from them. By asking questions and finding out what drove them to do it we can attempt to correct the flaw so other people don't do it. THEN we get rid of those scum


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Eugenics ftw

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Dudess wrote: »
    Wonder what actually makes people do this sh1t though?

    Violent video games and Marylin Manson, what else?

    Seriously though, this is absolutely sick, and I would certainly entertain the notion of these individuals receiving the death penalty. There's just no excuse for that kind of thing, unless you're a US Government employee.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 69,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    Horrendous!! FFS, God love the poor woman!! Pure evil. Its time to reassess what we do with these people!! Maybe its time to turn out the lights on them!:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    They both deserve a good beating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    <--- Votes for Dragan!

    There is no excuse for this, no matter what the background or upbringing. Even total scum know limits, and i know a few scumbags who wouldn't even dream of anything like this, but would stab you or me in the neck for a fiver!

    Death penalty ftw. And don't sterelise the needle (although, why that happens anyway is beyond me!)

    And people can keep on saying "rehabilitation" for every sort of crime these days. We need stricter laws! Johnny the imaginary thief gets caught robbing a bottle of whiskey and gets 2 years, and a full 2 years with none of this good behaviour/suspended sentence ****e. Johnny the imaginary thief will now become Johnny the imaginary "****ed if i'm doing that again" man.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 69,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    Well put!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    The fact that they had some planning behind this makes it all the more serious (ed. read full article which lists they intended stealing car..sinister all the same). +1 for Dragan's post.


  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mike65 wrote: »
    Here they'd get six months probation.

    Mike.

    When was the last time anyone even mentioned what happened to Evelyn Joel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    Wow, thirty posts and I'm the first person to mention this: there is no mention whatsoever of the severity of the victim's injuries.
    Draw whatever conclusions you will from that.

    I'm going to be loved round these parts I reckon....


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  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wacker wrote: »
    Wow, thirty posts and I'm the first person to mention this: there is no mention whatsoever of the severity of the victim's injuries.
    Draw whatever conclusions you will from that.

    I'm going to be loved round these parts I reckon....

    How old are you?


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