Teens torture disabled woman

metaoblivia

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/26/disabled.women.ap/index.html

CINCINNATI, Ohio (AP) -- Two teenagers hid overnight in a house and spent more than six hours torturing a disabled woman after her mother left in the morning, authorities said.

Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones said the teenage boy and girl tied up the 18-year-old woman, clubbed her, kicked her, shaved her head and soaked her with water before making her walk barefoot outside in the snow.

They also ignored pleas from the woman, who had undergone brain surgery, not to hit her in the head, investigators said.

"This is one of the worst crimes I've ever seen," Jones said Monday. "They are sick animals, apparently just doing this for kicks and no other reason."

Cheyenne Blanton, 17, and Joseph Nagle, 16, both of Hamilton, were arraigned Monday on juvenile delinquency charges that include aggravated burglary, aggravated robbery, kidnapping, felonious assault and vandalism, according to juvenile court officials.

They were ordered held in the county's juvenile detention center pending a court appearance later this week. Neither entered a plea, and both requested court-appointed attorneys. Those attorneys had not been named Monday.

The teens are accused of physically abusing Ashley Clark, 18, for more than six hours Friday at her home in Hanover Township, about 35 miles northwest of Cincinnati.

Both Jones and the woman's mother, Sheila Clark, want the teenagers tried as adults, and Jones said the two could get 75 years to life in prison if tried and convicted as adults.

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It's appalling what some people will do to those weaker than themselves. I say that at 16-17 years, they knew full well what they were doing. I'd be all for having them tried as adults. Still, 75 to life... that would be quite a long term to serve.

mike65

Here they'd get six months probation.

Mike.

kaimera

Detectives apprehended the teenagers a few minutes later in nearby woods after following their footprints in the snow

Real smart folks there alright. Assholes. Send 'em to Texas and fry them tbh.

Jesus Wept

Yes.

Dudess

Heh, "Miek"

"Hanging's too good for them" etc. We all know that. Wonder what actually makes people do this sh1t though?
Although thinking about that "John the ravin gay" video and the couple who locked a guy into their shed and tortured him for months over in England last year - both those guys had learning disabilities. Maybe it's simply because some people just love wielding power over those more vulnerable than them and making them suffer. Quite nazi-ish really.
And why is the victim referred to as a "woman"? Yeah, I know 18 is officially adult but she's a teenager for god's sake - only a year and two years older than the perpetrators.

FunkZ

They should be locked up for life. They're having a kid together so they'll probably get away with a ****ing slap on the wrist. Scumbags.

prendy

thats pretty sick.they should deffo get 10-15 years each. sick f**kers:mad:

Dyr

Dudess wrote: »

Wonder what actually makes people do this sh1t though?

lack of hangings?

metaoblivia

Dudess wrote: »

And why is the victim referred to as a "woman"? Yeah, I know 18 is officially adult but she's a teenager for god's sake - only a year and two years older than the perpetrators.

I noticed that too... I was expecting her to be older when I first read the article. Strange that if the teens had been 18, and the victim 16 or 17, there would be no talk of trying them as adults - it would be automatic.

humberklog

Bambi wrote: »

lack of hangings?

I believe they have the death penalty in ohio.
How about...simple example of cruelty?

Overheal

Wtf were they thinking?!

Thats just horrofic.

Dragan

Bah. Why waste millions of dollars to keep these **** alive in prison?

Two 9mm rounds, the base of the neck out behind the boiler, then bury in unmarked grave.

End.

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muppetkiller

I agree the death penalty has it's advantages for cases as clear cut as this.
off with their heads me thinks

Midna

Dragan wrote: »

Bah. Why waste millions of dollars to keep these **** alive in prison?
Two 9mm rounds, the base of the neck out behind the boiler, then bury in unmarked grave.
End.
Vote for me and i will bring you Peace....Peace and FEAR!

Better yet, forced labour, why not make them pay their debt to society in a literal sense. Get 20 years work out of them.

Overheal

Its not clear cut though. I'm sure you could explore these kid's upbringing and find out loads. Ask questions first; shoot later.

I'm surprised nobody has considered locking up their parents yet for example.

unclebill98

mike65 wrote: »

Here they'd get six months probation.

Mike.

Well thats if the Guards even managed to catch them :eek: .....

Little Princess

pretty sick news.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

Its not clear cut though. I'm sure you could explore these kid's upbringing and find out loads. Ask questions first; shoot later.

I'm surprised nobody has considered locking up their parents yet for example.

See, thats balls I think. There doesn't have to be a reason. Maybe they just did it for the sheer sake of it. Also, why would the parents be locked up? It wasn't them that snuck into that poor womans house and did those horrofic things to her.

They should have exactly the same thing they did to her. Karma.

mike65

unclebill98 wrote: »

Well thats if the Guards even managed to catch them :eek: .....

The lack of snow. You are right.

Mike.

Dragan

Overheal wrote: »

Its not clear cut though. I'm sure you could explore these kid's upbringing and find out loads. Ask questions first; shoot later.

I disagree. If you can't function as part of healthy society then you should be removed. Thats my honest opinion.

Certain crimes are way above and beyond any kind of rehab and apology and i would put torture right up there as one of them.

RandolphEsq

Overheal wrote: »

Ask questions first; shoot later.

I like that and seriously think it is the way to deal with problems. It means the criminals aren't just killed and we learn nothing from them. By asking questions and finding out what drove them to do it we can attempt to correct the flaw so other people don't do it. THEN we get rid of those scum

mike65

Eugenics ftw

Mike.

Karl Hungus

Dudess wrote: »

Wonder what actually makes people do this sh1t though?

Violent video games and Marylin Manson, what else?

Seriously though, this is absolutely sick, and I would certainly entertain the notion of these individuals receiving the death penalty. There's just no excuse for that kind of thing, unless you're a US Government employee.

Grid.

Horrendous!! FFS, God love the poor woman!! Pure evil. Its time to reassess what we do with these people!! Maybe its time to turn out the lights on them!

Mossy Monk

They both deserve a good beating.

Potential-Monke

<--- Votes for Dragan!

There is no excuse for this, no matter what the background or upbringing. Even total scum know limits, and i know a few scumbags who wouldn't even dream of anything like this, but would stab you or me in the neck for a fiver!

Death penalty ftw. And don't sterelise the needle (although, why that happens anyway is beyond me!)

And people can keep on saying "rehabilitation" for every sort of crime these days. We need stricter laws! Johnny the imaginary thief gets caught robbing a bottle of whiskey and gets 2 years, and a full 2 years with none of this good behaviour/suspended sentence ****e. Johnny the imaginary thief will now become Johnny the imaginary "****ed if i'm doing that again" man.

Grid.

Well put!!:D

Ruu_Old

The fact that they had some planning behind this makes it all the more serious (ed. read full article which lists they intended stealing car..sinister all the same). +1 for Dragan's post.

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

Here they'd get six months probation.

Mike.

When was the last time anyone even mentioned what happened to Evelyn Joel.

Wacker

Wow, thirty posts and I'm the first person to mention this: there is no mention whatsoever of the severity of the victim's injuries.
Draw whatever conclusions you will from that.

I'm going to be loved round these parts I reckon....

Wacker

Wacker wrote: »

Wow, thirty posts and I'm the first person to mention this: there is no mention whatsoever of the severity of the victim's injuries.
Draw whatever conclusions you will from that.

I'm going to be loved round these parts I reckon....

How old are you?

Mossy Monk

26 according to the profile. You should look yourself if you don't believe me.

Dudess

Wacker wrote: »

Wow, thirty posts and I'm the first person to mention this: there is no mention whatsoever of the severity of the victim's injuries.
Draw whatever conclusions you will from that.

I'm going to be loved round these parts I reckon....

Fair point. Probably cuts and bruises but imagine the psychological damage.

Nerin

Dudess wrote: »

Fair point. Probably cuts and bruises but imagine the psychological damage.

+1
can you imagine how you'd feel if people did that to you.
then add on the fact the poor girl had just gone through surgery...
this kinda stuff is horrible. :mad:

The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness.
Joseph Conrad

Tak3n

Maybe she just needed a hair cut ?

Grid.

I'll vote for Dragan also!!;)

User45701

hopefully they will be sent to jail and will suffer much worse themselves

The Real B-man

Sick Bastards!

Overheal

Dragan wrote: »

I disagree. If you can't function as part of healthy society then you should be removed. Thats my honest opinion.

Certain crimes are way above and beyond any kind of rehab and apology and i would put torture right up there as one of them.

No, I'll agree.

But if its something in 'functioning' society that helped bring this about we owe it to ourselves to find out what. Everything happens for a reason.

When I've exhausted my list of questions or grow bored, then you may kill them. May I suggest a .45 slug though? Much more satisfying.

Dinter

Labour camps ftw.

The sort of ones with suspicious looking chimneys and the follwoing sign over the main gate.

Work shall set you free*






*In the spiritual and very non literal sense of the word.

Fanny Cradock

Order Tina Turner out of retirement. Then construct a Thunderdome.

Lirange

When you have both Ruu and the person organising the Free Hugs Campaign in favour of acting out Charles Bronson in Death Wish ... you know they must be twisted scumtwats of epic proportions.

Dudess

Tak3n wrote: »

Maybe she just needed a hair cut ?

Yawn.

Everyone, ignore this renowned troll.

Dragan

Lirange wrote: »

When you have both Ruu and the person organising the Free Hugs Campaign in favour of acting out Charles Bronson in Death Wish ... you know they must be twisted scumtwats of epic proportions.

Pretty much sums it up. I'm a pretty understanding guy, but i will never understand picking on the weak just for laughs.

It makes you a coward, a bully and a sadist. Never really liked any of those three things.

With regard to the labour camps i still think that would be a bad idea. The rough cost of keeping ONE prisoner in the prison system, regardless of status, is astronomical for one year. Forced labour is doing nothing more than costing us way too much money when we could be employing people who really want to work to do the same for a proper wage for CHEAPER then keeping these guys alive.

I'm sticking to my guns (literally i suppose) but will happily upgrade to the .45

With regard to a societal flaw being a possible problem we hear about plenty of kids with tough times doing fantastic things and kids with ever opportuinity doing the worst of things. While i understand as a functioning society it is important to break down these reasons to find a better way to deal with them it is a sad fact that this same functioning society will never be short of live subjects.

Nerin

Dragan wrote: »

Pretty much somes it up. I'm a pretty understanding guy, but i will never understand picking on the weak just for laughs.

It makes you a coward, a bully and a sadist. Never really liked any of those three things.

With regard to the labour camps i still think that would be a bad idea. The rough cost of keeping ONE prisoner in the prison system, regardless of status, is astronomical for one year. Forced labour is doing nothing more than costing us way too much money when we could be employing people who really want to work to do the same for a proper wage for CHEAPER then keeping these guys alive.

I'm sticking to my guns (literally i suppose) but will happily upgrade to the .45

With regard to a societal flaw being a possible problem we hear about plenty of kids with tough times doing fantastic things and kids with ever opportuinity doing the worst of things. While i understand as a functioning society it is important to break down these reasons to find a better way to deal with them it is a sad fact that this same functioning society will never be short of live subjects.

i subscribe to your product/belief system.
although bullets cost money too...
may i suggest a sword or axe weapon? all you need do is sharpen it,and you get the personal touch,so to speak.
torture is too good for those idiots. Plus Ruu is usually a peaceful little creature,so that goes to show.

Naikon

Disgusting.

Mossy Monk

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Order Tina Turner out of retirement. Then construct a Thunderdome.

FTW. Best suggestion yet.

AckwelFoley

I say we should forgive them.

Its the Christian thing to do.

Tanabe

snyper wrote: »

I say we should forgive them.

Its the Christian thing to do.

This is no time for cracking jokes. Imagine that was your wife/mother/sister those waste of space attacked.

Although, to truly be free is to forgive, I'd truly forgive myself for any actions that fate had coming to those who acted in such a way.

metaoblivia

Someone mentioned this is passing earlier, and I've been thinking more about it. The two teens who tortured this poor woman have a child together. After what they've done, I certainly can't imagine anyone allowing them to raise a child. I would be afraid they would either subject the child to the same kind of treatment and/or raise the child to be like them - void of empathy and compassion.

Wossack

tried as adults, no question


then death by electric strimmers