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Should Rafa go?
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jesus_thats_gre wrote: »This has been flogged to death at this stage but for one last time.. Liverpool are badly in need of 2 world class wingers and 1 world class striker. If Rafa is given the funds to sign these 3 players in the summer, I expect Liverpool to genuinely challenge for the league with 2 or 3 games being the difference. If having signed these players, and assumung the squad is not ravaged with injuries for the majority of thr season, we have another season of 65 to 70 points, I would have to call Rafa's ability to win the PL into question.
I think one winger would do and another striker is definitely needed. Rafa Quaresma would definitely fit the winger bill (It would have been interesting to see how Simao would have fared out if ye'd got him the few years back) and I think that David Villa would link up well with Torres. Even, dare I say it, Robbie Keane would be good with Torres.
I think the defence is neglected a bit;
Sami Hyypia
J.A. Riise
Dan Agger
Jamie Carragher
Fabio Aurelio
Alvaro Arbeloa
Martin Skrtel
Steve Finnan
Hyypia is definitely on his way out, to be fair he gave great service. Benitez seemingly doesn't rate Riise anymore (And again, thats with good reason, he's been pretty poor). Finnan is getting on in years too, he's 32 at this stage, maybe 2, max 3 more seasons left in him. Jamie Carragher hasn't been up to his usual standards this season (He got away with another penalty claim today). Dan Agger is the one shining bit of hope, great potential but you have to hope he stays fit and avoids a Woodgate type career. Aurelio and Arbeloa have been decent this year and the new boy needs some time. Basically what I'm saying is the pack needs a reshuffle defensively.
Signing Macherano permanently was a big boost too. A look at the league table and specifically the draws column will tell you a lot though. Liverpool have the most draws in the Premiership this year (tied with Fulham) which kinda points to a lack of creativity.
Anyway, sure what do I know, I'm only an Arsenal fan and your all prolly sick to death of everyone else waxing lyrical about what needs doing.
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YesJust out of interest, Mr. Alan, what would need to happen for you to say Benitez should go? What is the minimum target for next year for him to be able to stay.
If, at the end of next season we were still 20 points behind the league winner and, (this part is really important) there was an ideal canditate available, i would "understand" why people would be calling for him to get the sack and couldnt really argue. (although i may still be calling for him to stay
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No.Lucas wtf absolute donkey. Thanks Rafa but you gotz to go
lol he's the U20's brazilian captain...
He's still settling in....Even the best players struggle to find any form when they're only getting occassional games,it can't be easy for him..
The guy might not have settled in as quickly as Manurre's Anderson, but that was hardly expected?
Hes not a wide player but was asked to do a job out there and obviously didnt play well, at arsenal or man u he would have done fine in that position as the midfielders/wing backs they have dont just give you the ball and expect you to morph into Kaka...Being a winger at the Pool is like being a keeper at the toon...
If it is true that Gerrard is refusing to play wide its very disapointing,Rafa needs to sort that out and Carragher too, who isnt all that...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-3263672-details/Henry+inspiration+for+Gray/article.do
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YesRafa out Mourinho in. The fact is his league record is muck, and to be honest we got lucky winning the european cup, mediocre manager, carra on the right Finnan on the left, Lucas wtf absolute donkey. Thanks Rafa but you gotz to go
oh my god
got lucky winning the CL? and also lucky getting to the final last year-yea? Finished ahead of Arsenal last 2 seasons in the league, should Arsene have been sacked? no, the most successful clubs are the ones that persevere with a manager while they are building something. Ferguson wasnt sacked in his first 7 years with the mancs. Wenger wasnt even nearly sacked over the last couple of years when they were winning nothing, and rightly so.
and lucas looks like an excellent little player. i dispair about some of our fans, i really do 0 -
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YesI think the defence is neglected a bit;
Sami Hyypia
J.A. Riise
Dan Agger
Jamie Carragher
Fabio Aurelio
Alvaro Arbeloa
Martin Skrtel
Steve Finnan
Hyypia is definitely on his way out, to be fair he gave great service. Benitez seemingly doesn't rate Riise anymore (And again, thats with good reason, he's been pretty poor). Finnan is getting on in years too, he's 32 at this stage, maybe 2, max 3 more seasons left in him. Jamie Carragher hasn't been up to his usual standards this season (He got away with another penalty claim today). Dan Agger is the one shining bit of hope, great potential but you have to hope he stays fit and avoids a Woodgate type career. Aurelio and Arbeloa have been decent this year and the new boy needs some time. Basically what I'm saying is the pack needs a reshuffle defensively.
There is no doubt that Hypia is on his way out due to age etc. However, he has proved that he is still capable of performing at the highest level. Ideally, I would like him replaced with a younger model. Saying that though, who would you prefer as backup in the centre of defence - Senderos or Wes Brown?
Finnan is certainly getting on in years but he is still more than up to the job. A long term replacement is already is place (Arbeloa).
There is no doubting that Carra has has a poor enough season but it is not a worry for me. Things will return to normal soon enough.
Riise seems to be on his way out. Will be interesting to see who he takes in. Aurellio is an average player that can do a job but his injury problems will prevent him frm ever geuniely establishing himself.
Skrtel is an unknown quantity. He looked fairly rough on his debut but looked alot better yesterday I thought. I am extremely confident that Agger is more than up to the task and really do hope that he recovers from injury very soon.
Things certainly aren't perfect in the defence but it is still an extremely effective unit.Signing Macherano permanently was a big boost too. A look at the league table and specifically the draws column will tell you a lot though. Liverpool have the most draws in the Premiership this year (tied with Fulham) which kinda points to a lack of creativity.
Creativity and being unable to put chances away are defo the root cause of our problems.Anyway, sure what do I know, I'm only an Arsenal fan and your all prolly sick to death of everyone else waxing lyrical about what needs doing.
Certainly am sick to death of hearing the same thing over and over but I have absolutely no problem when someone makes a post like you have. Liverpool are 2 or 3 pieces of a 25 piece jigsaw away from being where they want to me.0 -
oh my god
got lucky winning the CL? and also lucky getting to the final last year-yea? Finished ahead of Arsenal last 2 seasons in the league, should Arsene have been sacked? no, the most successful clubs are the ones that persevere with a manager while they are building something. Ferguson wasnt sacked in his first 7 years with the mancs. Wenger wasnt even nearly sacked over the last couple of years when they were winning nothing, and rightly so.
and lucas looks like an excellent little player. i dispair about some of our fans, i really do
Mate - if you think we deserved to win the CL you must be blind, we improved last year to get to the final but again i feel we simply did not deserve it, you could say we scraped through, a brilliant performace in Barcelona over shadowed this fact.
Yoiur living in the past - nearly 20 years since the league has come to Anfield 20 YEARS. Benitez simply hasnt delivered, we have never been up there, i have never got that excited feeling that we were actually competing for the title, you probably did because of your love for the club is blinding the harsh reality. Benitez is also damaging players confidence, Riise, Crouch and now Carragher and finnan, putting Carragher on the right was just as good as telling him his finished as a centre half and Finnan on the left, god knows what he must be thinking. He drops Benayoun(or however you spell it), the man is playing well and is full of confidence and he drops Babel, Like wtf. Benitez clearly has issues and is quite stubborn for example playing Zenden in the CL final, i really think the man is blind sometimes.
What we need is Mourinho or even Martin IO'Neill.
Benitez has done some good work but its time to take it up to the next level, which in my opinion is the summit, a good foundation is there now and its time to act fast to stop the team from crumbling, we need some wise, intelligent and quality buys and personally i think Mourinho is the man to do this
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No (Liverpool fans)jesus_thats_gre wrote: »Christ, you have managed to convince yourself of quite a bit haven't you.
I laugh when people complain about the style of play that Rafa likes to play and then suggest that Mourinhio is the answer to our problems.
Rafa and Jose are cut out of the same block. They play the exact same type of football and rate the exact same players. Half the players that Rafa has been rumoured to have bid for, Jose bidded for the same players - SWP, Simao, Villa, Malouda and Joaquinn to name but a few. The only thing that seperates the two is a league title that was bought.
Hang on a sec. I NEVER said that Jose Mourinho should be the next Ireland manager. Don't know where you got that from??
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