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Spud83 · 03-12-2007 03:47PM

Slow coach wrote: »

Obviously. If she sold on ebay, then ebay has her details. She can refund the money or ebay can do it, with a stiff penalty.

I dont think ebay will refund the money unless the OP stated that when advertising the tickets. The OP was selling two tickets, and the buyer got two tickets. EBay will say the OP done nothing wrong, unless he made a guarantee of the concert taking place.

kraggy · 03-12-2007 03:50PM

They can't necessarily.

If you buy something on ebay and it stops working suddenly, you can't get always get a refund from the seller. And ebay aren't in a position to charge the seller at that stage.

They bought the tickets knowing at certain level of risk. That risk has transpired in the cancellation of the concert.

I'm not saying the OP shouldn't refund the money. Just saying that she won't necessarily have to.

drdre · 03-12-2007 03:51PM

Did the new buyer ask for a refund.He he/she didnt then dont bother giving it back.If they do ask then just refund the 99.Its not your problem the concert is cancelled.

Procasinator · 03-12-2007 03:51PM

Give back the 240 minus any costs/charges you incur in the exchanges. You won't lose any money and little in the way of time - and it's the honest thing to do. I can't see the charges being big on this one, so really you'll probably just be giving them the 240.

Any thing else is being a low-life in my opinion.

AlmightyCushion · 03-12-2007 03:53PM

Isn't selling tickets on ebay against the rules?

whiskeyman · 03-12-2007 03:54PM

The buyer was an idiot to buy tickets at inflated prices off ebay (and you) in the first place.
If you refund, you're giving touts a good name...
I'd say keep the money, and enjoy it.
You've just made extra profit out of an original nice profit you raked from touting them in in the first place.
Surely you don't expect a 'warm fuzzy feeling' by refunding?
Your intention was to rip someone off in the first place anyway, so why 'be fair' now?

Well done...

Lawless_Samurai · 03-12-2007 04:00PM

Quality wrote: »

can people please confirm if they are talking about the 99 or the 240?

I was talking about the €240. Why would you give them the €99?

Saint_Mel · 03-12-2007 04:00PM

Quality wrote: »

I put them on ebay at cost price.... I didnt make anyone bid on them...

You could have listed them with a "Buy Now" at the origional price.
By accepting above the face value for them you are touting.

"I didnt make anyone bid" is just a lame line touts use to make them
feel less of a tout.

Quality · 03-12-2007 04:01PM

I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
they're giving refunds.

This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

Cathmandooo · 03-12-2007 04:02PM

Quality wrote: »

This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

A refund or tickets for a new date

AlmightyCushion · 03-12-2007 04:02PM

Quality wrote: »

I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
they're giving refunds.

This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

For her money back if they are giving refunds by the sounds of it and rightfully so.

kraggy · 03-12-2007 04:05PM

I think they are asking you if refunds are available from the promoters but dropping the hint that they'd like a refund on the 240 from you.

alleepally · 03-12-2007 04:05PM

Quality wrote: »

I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
they're giving refunds.

This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

Looks to me like the person is gently asking for a refund. You already know what the story is regarding refunds. 'cmon kill this thread and do the right thing.

Cathmandooo · 03-12-2007 04:06PM

Plus it would be very hard to sell again on Ebay if you get a bad reputation from this...

Spud83 · 03-12-2007 04:07PM

Quality wrote: »

I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
they're giving refunds.

This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

Depends on what you are going to do. If you plan on refunding her then contact her and say they are offering refunds for the concert and I will be refunding you also.

If you are planning on keeping the money, then you can A) Ignore her

Tell her you have heard nothing about it. C) Write back and say that unfortunantly the concert wasn cancelled however any issues you have with your tickets should be taken up with the concert promoters.

ekevosu · 03-12-2007 04:08PM

Quality wrote: »

I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
they're giving refunds.

This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

its fairly obvious what they are looking for. Give them back their money minus any postage / paypal costs you incurred.

Spud83 · 03-12-2007 04:08PM

Cathooo wrote: »

Plus it would be very hard to sell again on Ebay if you get a bad reputation from this...

Maybe they have already left good feedback?

Cathmandooo · 03-12-2007 04:09PM

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Maybe they have already left good feedback?

Can you not edit it? You can edit most things on the net, I've never used EBay so I wouldn't know.

whiskeyman · 03-12-2007 04:10PM

Have to laugh at all those voting 'Yes, Be fair'.
Where exactly was the 'fairness' in touting these tickets in the first place?
Ok, you can put forward your basic economics 'demand' argument, but touts are still [insert nasty word here] IMO...

Spud83 · 03-12-2007 04:14PM

Cathooo wrote: »

Can you not edit it? You can edit most things on the net, I've never used EBay so I wouldn't know.

As far as I know you can leave additional feeedback but you can not edit what is already there.

Cathmandooo · 03-12-2007 04:15PM

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

As far as I know you can leave additional feeedback but you can not edit what is already there.

Cool well they can slate her in the additional feedback box

That's if she doesnt give it back.

Procasinator · 03-12-2007 04:15PM

Quality wrote: »

I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
they're giving refunds.

This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

You can tell by the red text that she is passionate and proud, and her assertiveness shows she is considerate but relentless in getting what she wants. If you both bat for the same team, I think you should ask her on a date....

She wants her money back unless another date is confirmed for which she go to from her already existing purchase. You don't need to be a clairvoyant to see that!

_Kaiser_ · 03-12-2007 04:16PM

Very simple one really. She paid the OP for tickets to a concert that was subsequently cancelled and for which refunds are now being issued.

You should therefore refund her the full amount she paid you for them (minus any charges). What would you want in her place?

alleepally · 03-12-2007 04:18PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

Have to laugh at all those voting 'Yes, Be fair'.
Where exactly was the 'fairness' in touting these tickets in the first place?
Ok, you can put forward your basic economics 'demand' argument, but touts are still [insert nasty word here] IMO...

That's outside the scope of this discussion isn't it? Voting "Yes, Be Fair" isn't an endorsement of ticket touting. The touting has already been done - this is a different matter altogether.

alleepally · 03-12-2007 04:19PM

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

. What would you want in her place?

Exactly, "do unto others" and all that...

Procasinator · 03-12-2007 04:19PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

Have to laugh at all those voting 'Yes, Be fair'.
Where exactly was the 'fairness' in touting these tickets in the first place?
Ok, you can put forward your basic economics 'demand' argument, but touts are still [insert nasty word here] IMO...

Well, she said another engagement came up after having purchased the tickets. So while she was making a tidy profit, she didn't buy the tickets with intention of doing so.

Also, you don't right a wrong with another wrong.

r3nu4l · 03-12-2007 04:20PM

First things first.

No you didn't force anyone to bid on your tickets but you could have said to the winner, "Wow, you really wanted those tickets but I'm not a tout so I'm going to give them to you for the price they cost me plus a few quid for postage etc. It's only fair and I'm a nice person not a profiteering scumbag".

Anything other than that means you were happy to tout!

Secondly, you should give her the €240 back minus any costs to you.

Thirdly, her email to you is appealing to your sense of fairness and honesty so be fair and honest and give her her money back and wish her a great Christmas and Happy New Year.

alleepally · 03-12-2007 04:23PM

r3nu4l wrote: »

Thirdly, her email to you is appealing to your sense of fairness and honesty so be fair and honest and give her her money back and wish her a great Christmas and Happy New Year.

Well said !

Caliden · 03-12-2007 04:26PM

Give them the cost price back

TerrorFirmer · 03-12-2007 04:26PM

Give her back what she paid for them. Anything else and you're just a low life. Then again, you're already a low life for even seriously considering keeping the money. Spend it on your heroin habit

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