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Good Girl or Bad Girl

  • 03-12-2007 2:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭


    Ok story is, I sold tickets for a concert on ebay 3 weeks ago. Got €240 for them, they were bought for €99.

    The said concert was cancelled.

    I have gotten an email to say that the ticket money is to be refunded on my credit card.

    So should I give that money to the person who bought the tickets off me or should I keep it all to myself.....

    Please help me decide...

    Should I give the refund away 41 votes

    Yes, Be fair
    0% 0 votes
    Hell NO!
    100% 41 votes


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Comments

  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    You should give them back their €240.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    I'd give them back the 99, you're not responsible for the thing being cancelled so just give them back what the organisers gave you because of the change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Give it back...i presume your not a lowlife thief? then dont act like one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Kazu


    you have to ask :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,555 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    indeed.

    There's no such thing as karma, you probably won't suffer as a result of keeping the money.. but it'd still be wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭Cathmandooo


    Yeah give it back, festive spirit and all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,226 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    You have no choice. It's being refunded automatically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭kev_s88


    keep the money and wait and see if the people who bought your tickets come looking for the money back.otherwise keep it yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Aura


    Kazu wrote: »
    you have to ask :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Completely!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    I voted yes because its the nice thing to do but it doesn't mean I would do it. They knew the risks involved in purchasing the tickets from E-Bay.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    What would you want if you forked out 240 for tickets to a gig you wanted to see and it got cancelled?
    Your 240 back or 99 back?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Slow coach wrote: »
    You have no choice. It's being refunded automatically.

    The original 99 is being refunded by the promoters to the original buyers.

    OP is asking about the 240.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    You should give the 240 back. Oh and you shouldn't be touting tickets either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭junkster12345


    yeah give it back, its the honest thing to do, and your also getting your money back on your card, so nobody is at a loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Lawless_Samurai


    If it was me I'd give em back their 240 but thats just me. I know some people who wouldn't!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭blah


    You sold an Ticket for €240 for an event that has now been cancelled, you should give the €240 back to your ebay customer. You won't be out of pocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    hopalong85 wrote: »
    You should give the 240 back. Oh and you shouldn't be touting tickets either.

    I wasnt touting, I had bought tickets and then my work do was confirmed.

    I put them on ebay at cost price.... I didnt make anyone bid on them...

    The person at the time was very happy to have gotten them,

    Like I have been happy to pay over the odds for tickets in the past to gigs I have wanted to go too!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    can people please confirm if they are talking about the 99 or the 240?


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    Quality wrote: »
    I wasnt touting, I had bought tickets and then my work do was confirmed.

    I put them on ebay at cost price.... I didnt make anyone bid on them...

    The person at the time was very happy to have gotten them,

    Like I have been happy to pay over the odds for tickets in the past to gigs I have wanted to go too!!

    In that case I wouldn't give them the money back It's their own fault really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭RxQueen


    id give them back the money if they asked you for the refund on it- fair is fair


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,917 ✭✭✭Wossack


    So your a shining beacon of honesty, but still have to ask the question?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Binomate


    Keep it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    I thought it would make for an interesting poll/argument?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Do not name the concert.
    Do not speculate on which concert it is/ was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I'd give it all back, bar fee's and I'm scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭Cathmandooo


    Quality wrote: »
    can people please confirm if they are talking about the 99 or the 240?


    Give the 240 back or nothing at all. They were never dealing with the 99. It's your conscience that you have to live with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Quality wrote: »
    can people please confirm if they are talking about the 99 or the 240?

    Your poll doesn't really help with that distinction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭roy123456789


    Give them back their money...... you keep the refund, no-one loses out and your e-bay rep stays intact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    There is only one possible answer to this and you have to do the right thing - "do unto others" - if you do otherwise, you really are a bad girl.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,226 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    kraggy wrote: »
    The original 99 is being refunded by the promoters to the original buyers.

    OP is asking about the 240.

    Obviously. If she sold on ebay, then ebay has her details. She can refund the money or ebay can do it, with a stiff penalty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Slow coach wrote: »
    Obviously. If she sold on ebay, then ebay has her details. She can refund the money or ebay can do it, with a stiff penalty.

    I dont think ebay will refund the money unless the OP stated that when advertising the tickets. The OP was selling two tickets, and the buyer got two tickets. EBay will say the OP done nothing wrong, unless he made a guarantee of the concert taking place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    They can't necessarily.

    If you buy something on ebay and it stops working suddenly, you can't get always get a refund from the seller. And ebay aren't in a position to charge the seller at that stage.

    They bought the tickets knowing at certain level of risk. That risk has transpired in the cancellation of the concert.

    I'm not saying the OP shouldn't refund the money. Just saying that she won't necessarily have to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭drdre


    Did the new buyer ask for a refund.He he/she didnt then dont bother giving it back.If they do ask then just refund the 99.Its not your problem the concert is cancelled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Procasinator


    Give back the 240 minus any costs/charges you incur in the exchanges. You won't lose any money and little in the way of time - and it's the honest thing to do. I can't see the charges being big on this one, so really you'll probably just be giving them the 240.

    Any thing else is being a low-life in my opinion.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Isn't selling tickets on ebay against the rules?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    The buyer was an idiot to buy tickets at inflated prices off ebay (and you) in the first place.
    If you refund, you're giving touts a good name...
    I'd say keep the money, and enjoy it.
    You've just made extra profit out of an original nice profit you raked from touting them in in the first place.
    Surely you don't expect a 'warm fuzzy feeling' by refunding?
    Your intention was to rip someone off in the first place anyway, so why 'be fair' now?


    Well done...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Lawless_Samurai


    Quality wrote: »
    can people please confirm if they are talking about the 99 or the 240?

    I was talking about the €240. Why would you give them the €99?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Quality wrote: »
    I put them on ebay at cost price.... I didnt make anyone bid on them...

    You could have listed them with a "Buy Now" at the origional price.
    By accepting above the face value for them you are touting.

    "I didnt make anyone bid" is just a lame line touts use to make them
    feel less of a tout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
    refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
    but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
    they're giving refunds.



    This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭Cathmandooo


    Quality wrote: »


    This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

    A refund or tickets for a new date


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Quality wrote: »
    I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
    refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
    but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
    they're giving refunds.



    This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

    For her money back if they are giving refunds by the sounds of it and rightfully so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    I think they are asking you if refunds are available from the promoters but dropping the hint that they'd like a refund on the 240 from you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    Quality wrote: »
    I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
    refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
    but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
    they're giving refunds.



    This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

    Looks to me like the person is gently asking for a refund. You already know what the story is regarding refunds. 'cmon kill this thread and do the right thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭Cathmandooo


    Plus it would be very hard to sell again on Ebay if you get a bad reputation from this...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Quality wrote: »
    I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
    refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
    but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
    they're giving refunds.



    This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

    Depends on what you are going to do. If you plan on refunding her then contact her and say they are offering refunds for the concert and I will be refunding you also.

    If you are planning on keeping the money, then you can A) Ignore her B) Tell her you have heard nothing about it. C) Write back and say that unfortunantly the concert wasn cancelled however any issues you have with your tickets should be taken up with the concert promoters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭ekevosu


    Quality wrote: »
    I was just wondering if you know wat the story is about getting a
    refund for the tickets, I'm sure you've heard that *** didn't play,
    but do you know if there's another date planned for the concert or if
    they're giving refunds.



    This was the email I got off her so What exactly is she looking for?

    its fairly obvious what they are looking for. Give them back their money minus any postage / paypal costs you incurred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Cathooo wrote: »
    Plus it would be very hard to sell again on Ebay if you get a bad reputation from this...

    Maybe they have already left good feedback?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭Cathmandooo


    Maybe they have already left good feedback?


    Can you not edit it? You can edit most things on the net, I've never used EBay so I wouldn't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Have to laugh at all those voting 'Yes, Be fair'.
    Where exactly was the 'fairness' in touting these tickets in the first place?
    Ok, you can put forward your basic economics 'demand' argument, but touts are still [insert nasty word here] IMO...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Cathooo wrote: »
    Can you not edit it? You can edit most things on the net, I've never used EBay so I wouldn't know.

    As far as I know you can leave additional feeedback but you can not edit what is already there.


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