lipotrim

Anthony_1980 · 16-11-2007 04:36PM

8 months and 18 stone lost well done

but at €80 a pop and say 34 weeks

€2720.00

fair price to pay

roy123456789 · 16-11-2007 04:53PM

[qoute]If your weight has stayed off its due to the 2 hours walking every day and not because of lipotrim.Starvation diets are dangerous,they screw up your metabolism and eat into your muscle,including your heart.No GP with any conscience would reccomend this as an alternative to excersise and a good diet.[/QUOTE]

It's obvious that I must now change my old eating habits and exercise more, Lipotrim has given me the confidence to do that, your stupid argument about eating into muscle is bordering on idiotic, you're body will only urn protein if it has no other reserves to feed on, Obese people do not have such problems that realm lies with fanatical gym obsessed types.

By the way Rub a Dub it's also distributed by GPs

Here's the proof,(again), me, before and after

Jumpy · 16-11-2007 04:54PM

Anthony_1980 wrote: »

8 months and 18 stone lost well done

but at €80 a pop and say 34 weeks

€2720.00

fair price to pay

dollar to calorie its pretty expensive alright.

roy123456789 · 16-11-2007 04:59PM

Jumpy wrote: »

dollar to calorie its pretty expensive alright.

Its also ALL your food and drink for the week, so deduct what you'd normally spend on those for a real cost

LIPOTRIM, Here's the proof,(again), me, before and after

ali.c · 16-11-2007 05:10PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

your stupid argument about eating into muscle is bordering on idiotic, you're body will only urn protein if it has no other reserves to feed on, Obese people do not have such problems that realm lies with fanatical gym obsessed types.

By the way Rub a Dub it's also distributed by GPs

Seriously dude take a chill pill, no need to be insulting people. BTW did you get banned and re-reg to post here??

On the stupid arguement, well no offense the only thing you are showing is your own ingorance, mucsle is active tissue, it requires calories to keep it (i.e. in order to maintain muscle you need to eat) fat is inactive (no calories required to maintain it). On a very low calorie diet (i.e. lipotrim) your body gets rid of muscle as it is costing too much of the calorie intake to maintain it.

So maybe before you go around insulting people left right and centre, you get your basic physiology right. Clearly you dont know that much about nutrition diet or fitness.

I cant believe you are going on about obessed fitness types, its a bloody fitness forum ffs what the hell do you expect??

rubadub · 16-11-2007 05:16PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

your stupid argument about eating into muscle is bordering on idiotic, you're body will only urn protein if it has no other reserves to feed on,

Heavily obese people have pretty big amounts of muscle, they are in effect weight training all day long if they are walking around. Muscle will reduce, if it didnt if you went on lipotrim and lost all fat & no muscle you would end up looking fairly muscular by the end of it.

If I carried around a barbell with 200kg on it all day long, everyday my legs would be huge.

roy123456789 wrote: »

By the way Rub a Dub it's also distributed by GPs

Some people have a blind faith in pharmacists and doctors, as if all they have in interest is peoples health, with no concern for money. These people are running a business just like any other. A doctor could recommend lucozade just as he might lipotrim, it is a food that could be on sale in tescos.

Many products in a pharmacy are "over the counter drugs", fairly strong medications that cannot be sold in a normal shop. By restricting distribution to pharmacies they are trying to make their product appear "special". I know people that swear by codeine and other OTC painkillers, branding anything like aspirin or paracetomol "useless", simply since you can get it in a supermarket. Restricting sales to a pharmacy is a clever way of making people presume it is a OTC drug, and therefore "must be good & powerful"

Your GP can "distrubute" whatever food he wants. There is nothing special about this food. Eating 500kcal of any meal replacement foods will have the same results. If it works well for you then your main problem is simply portion control to begin with.

Its also ALL your food and drink for the week, so deduct what you'd normally spend on those for a real cost

If I ate 500kcal of food per day from my normal diet it would be very cheap, so I would be deducting very little.

3500kcal per week for €80 is expensive. around 4 times the price of fillet steak.

But there is nothing special in lipotrim, read the ingredients, if you went to a health store you could easily knock up an equivalent, probably for €10 per week

Anthony_1980 · 16-11-2007 08:34PM

im overweight im 21 stone but always been heavy boned but none the less not acceptable , started waking 6 days a week and joined weight watchers to keep incentive in front of my mind , my first week weight in i lost 7 lbs , great as it is its just water retention id say but i should lose 2-3 lbs a week and b4 u know it , a stone gone now for the next one thats my attitude , i dont have to starve or stop drinking etc

still have great quality of life , unlike urself who cant drink , eat , and i know somebody who lost 4 stone on it and has since put over 5.5 back on and still getting bigger

Supercell · 16-11-2007 08:52PM

Anthony_1980 wrote: »

im overweight im 21 stone but always been heavy boned but none the less not acceptable , started waking 6 days a week and joined weight watchers to keep incentive in front of my mind , my first week weight in i lost 7 lbs , great as it is its just water retention id say but i should lose 2-3 lbs a week and b4 u know it , a stone gone now for the next one thats my attitude , i dont have to starve or stop drinking etc

still have great quality of life , unlike urself who cant drink , eat , and i know somebody who lost 4 stone on it and has since put over 5.5 back on and still getting bigger

Fair play Anthony, you're loosing the weight the right way and likely to keep it off if you keep up the healthy living.

The problem is with Lipotrim is, you get a easy glimpse of what the skinny you would look like. But you didnt work your way to that place , so what happens..you have a slowed metabolism and as sure as night follows day a year or two later (for about 99% of people I'd guess) you're back at where you started , probably with interest and disgusted at yourself.
Been there, done that.

Roy, well done on loosing the weight, but I'd be very surprised if 12 months from now you havent put at least one or two stone back on, and two years from now you'll probably be heavier than when you started.

I know you feel defensive about Lipotrim, I did too, it made me skinny and I felt FANTASTIC as a result. But then I started eating as i did before and piled the pounds back on despite all the best intentions.

Being skinny and healthy is a lifestyle choice, it cannot be purchased in a powder pack.

roy123456789 · 16-11-2007 09:35PM

ali.c wrote: »

Seriously dude take a chill pill, no need to be insulting people. BTW did you get banned and re-reg to post here??

On the stupid arguement, well no offense the only thing you are showing is your own ingorance, mucsle is active tissue, it requires calories to keep it (i.e. in order to maintain muscle you need to eat) fat is inactive (no calories required to maintain it). On a very low calorie diet (i.e. lipotrim) your body gets rid of muscle as it is costing too much of the calorie intake to maintain it.

So maybe before you go around insulting people left right and centre, you get your basic physiology right. Clearly you dont know that much about nutrition diet or fitness.

I cant believe you are going on about obessed fitness types, its a bloody fitness forum ffs what the hell do you expect??

No, I've never been banned, I'm sorry if you feel i insult people, I feel very strongly about this product, I believe it's added years to my life and to have people spouting a pile of horse manure , who don't know what they are talking about offends me, Yes I put more faith in my GP and Pharmacist than I do some GYM pushing steroid androids. The Lipotrim formula as well as being very low calorie provides all the necessary nutrients a body needs, Do you seriously belive that GPs and Pharmacies would peddle a potion that led to heart and muscle tissue being depleted.....Get real!

LIPOTRIM, Here's the proof,(again), me, before and after

Huggles · 16-11-2007 09:46PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

LIPOTRIM, Here's the proof,(again), me, before and after

Roy, we are being real, did you read Longfields Post? Stop being so abusive and accept the flaws of this program.

Have you learnt to make healthy food choices or are you still going to eat same crap as before happy in the knowledge that a a shake for two weeks will sort you? Thats no way to live.

Here you are Roy, this one is for you

You will find a lot of the posters on here such as myself have accomplished what you have through shear blood sweat, tears and self education.

Supercell · 16-11-2007 09:58PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

I feel very strongly about this product, I believe it's added years to my life and to have people spouting a pile of horse manure , who don't know what they are talking about offends me

Roy, I know here you are coming from , believe me, I was in the same place you are now after loosing about four stone on Lipotrim.
Sadly about a year or so later I was about 5 stone heavier. I even posted just like you here, I was going to eat the right way, exercise , no way was I going back!
Problem was the odd "ah shure" moment kept creeping in..sure one more scone, ah sure another pint wont kill me .etc, etc, etc..and then I was exactly where I was before, the problem was I just didnt know how to be a skinny person, I bought it in a white bland powder pack two times a day.

I've recently started back doing it the right way though better diet, cardio and (a few days ago) weights too. I've lost nearly two stone now in the last few months, very slow compared to Lipotrim but I'm eating!!

To keep loosing weight I've just had to find tasty recipes that help me loose weight, simple as that.
Eating well means that you can go to a restaurant, can go out on the lash at the weekend (within reason) if thats your thing and still the weight will fall off.
The difference is that once I get to target weight I dont have to do maintenance or anything, I'm already eating and healthy with a fit metabolism instead of a sluggish fat thin person one.

You can keep it off , but you will need to start finding healthy recipes fast and exercising most days (ie working up a sweat), if you don't, the old you with interest is coming back.

Huggles · 16-11-2007 10:00PM

Longfield wrote: »

You can keep it off , but you will need to start finding healthy recipes fast and exercising most days (ie working up a sweat), if you don't, the old you with interest is coming back.

Spot on.

Canis Lupus · 16-11-2007 10:17PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

I was able to keep up diets short term but eventually went out on a social or whatever lost hope and floundered, Lipotrim gave me the incentive i needed. I now walk for 2 hours every day, Lipotrim is administered by GPs and Pharmacists, you on the other hand probably take advice from keep fit people , magazines, or even worse....... the ever so self righteous Boru

Here's the proof,(again), me, before and after

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Truth be told I'd rather listen to Boru, Dragan, Hanley G'em etc than someone who turns to something like Lipotrim. I'd aspire to be as dedicated and as fit as them any day over your choice.

By the by (not saying this applies to you) I watched a program about a fat lady the other day and it was all about helping her to lose weight for her wedding. Exercise and diet was the key. So the presenter took her out cycling and you could tell by her face that she'd never get on the bike again. Her exercise became her walks on the beach. Her walks being gentle strolls... (I think I saw a snail overtake her) and she thought these "walks" were doing her the world of good but was still disappointed by the slow pace of her weight loss..... Not saying your two hours of walking is really strolling or anything but the from my limited knowledge walking (not power walking) isn't really going to do all that much for you although every little helps at the end of the day.

To see things from your perspective however I can see from your photos that you were overweight and are now slim and I can see why you'd want to defend the product but I'd try to suggest that you take what you now have and improve it otherwise (and I was fat 2 years ago) it'll creep back and it creeps back slowly enough that you may turn around and find you've another mountain to climb again.

I know exercise is tough but if you eat right and exercise properly I'd ask you to come back in even just a month and I'd be willing to bet you'd be happier with the changes happening to your body than anything that Lipotrim could do for you. Just ma opinion like cos at the end of the day no one here will really care if you get fat again. You gotta look out for no1 and all that.

smellslikeshoes · 16-11-2007 10:53PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

Yes I put more faith in my GP and Pharmacist than I do some GYM pushing steroid androids. [/URL]

Thats the sort of attitude that shows to me that you do not have the knowledge to stay thin. The athletic people on this board, the "GYM pushing steroid androids" as you call them, have gotten to where they are today with a lot of hard work and by knowing about nutrition and how the body works. There are people on this board that know more about fitness than any doctor.

roy123456789 · 17-11-2007 06:05AM

OK, so it looks like Ive pissed off and annoyed everyone here now.

I didn't mean to, but I ain't gonna give up defending this product;

Firstly let me say if I do happen to put back on the 6 stone I've lost, that'll be down to my own stupidity for allowing myself to slip back into bad habits, it will have nothing to do with Lipotrim, it's just a fact of life for obese people... we slip back, I don't intend to be one of those statistics, but it would be as likely no matter what method I chose!

The Gooner linked to a 2005 article which was written when Lipotrim was looking for a licence to trade here, thankfully the IMB were worried and looked into it in depth , eventually giving it a licence for Ireland ..ie' they passed it!

I'm a Taxi driver, I have no agenda,(here's my site for proof) I've used the product with great success, I'd like others that are considering it not to be put off by those here who may have agendas, some of those most vociferous have said they are personal trainers, yoga instructors , chinese therapists blah blah etc, these people do not want to lose custom to Lipotrim and will fight tooth and nail to kill it!

There is a video on the lipotrim site which will give an idea what to expect, when you visit your GP/ Pharmacist they will explain the system and will not start the program for a few days and you have considered it.
Each week you will be weighed and your symptoms accessed , the main worry is that you may have weight acquired conditions such as diabetes and suchlike, weightwatchers and the gym won't bother with this by the way!

I'd like to apologise to those I've offended and I will endeavor to behave more rationally, but please, no more scare mongering and yes I resent the opinion that because I didn't choose your method I'm a lesser mortal, I congratulate anyone that manages to get their weight back in line, it's difficult whatever method you choose including Lipotrim

there are before and after pictures of me in links in my previous posts , or the link I added earlier in this post will suffice!

rubadub · 17-11-2007 12:25PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

Yes I put more faith in my GP and Pharmacist than I do some GYM pushing steroid androids.

The lipotrim marketing team love the blind faith some appear to put in medical professionals. My doctor is a fat bloke who smokes, I am not going to ask his advice on lifting weights. Some people here with low levels of body fat were called obese by doctors. Some doctors are just blindly quoting stuff from medical journals. Like all professions there are good and bad doctors, some who couldnt care less about their customers and are just in it for the money.

roy123456789 wrote: »

Do you seriously belive that GPs and Pharmacies would peddle a potion that led to heart and muscle tissue being depleted.....Get real!

Yes they do! Did your doctor tell you the side effects of such a low calorie diet. It is harmful, it is intended only for the patient whos bad side effects from their current fat levels outweight the side effects of the lipotrim diet. i.e. it is a utter last resort. For the mildly overweight any decent doctor would be recommending the same as most posters here are.

Firstly let me say if I do happen to put back on the 6 stone I've lost, that'll be down to my own stupidity for allowing myself to slip back into bad habits, it will have nothing to do with Lipotrim, it's just a fact of life for obese people... we slip back, I don't intend to be one of those statistics, but it would be as likely no matter what method I chose!

Thats it so, it can do no wrong. It is common knowledge that low caloire dieting will slow the metabolism, yo-yo dieting is the term, ask your doctor if they have heard of it. The slowing of the metabolism has everything to do with your extreme calorie reduction.

Each week you will be weighed and your symptoms accessed , the main worry is that you may have weight acquired conditions such as diabetes and suchlike, weightwatchers and the gym won't bother with this by the way!

Who is weighing you and assesing your symptoms? Could this not be arranged to be done by any person no matter what program they are on?
This lipotrim program is intended for people whos fat levels require such medical assistance/monitoring. If such a severely overweight person was on WW or going to the gym their doctor would probably advise similar intervals of checkups.

I'd like others that are considering it not to be put off by those here who may have agendas, some of those most vociferous have said they are personal trainers, yoga instructors , chinese therapists blah blah etc, these people do not want to lose custom to Lipotrim and will fight tooth and nail to kill it!

I dont think anybody is trying to flog anything. Before I was saying that if you insist on going on lipotrim you may as well make up your own version for a fraction of the cost, noting special in it, no ingredient in it is only available in pharmacies or anything.

Degsy · 17-11-2007 01:48PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

OK, so it looks like Ive pissed off and annoyed everyone here now.

I didn't mean to, but I ain't gonna give up defending this product;

Firstly let me say if I do happen to put back on the 6 stone I've lost, that'll be down to my own stupidity for allowing myself to slip back into bad habits, it will have nothing to do with Lipotrim, it's just a fact of life for obese people... we slip back, I don't intend to be one of those statistics, but it would be as likely no matter what method I chose!

The Gooner linked to a 2005 article which was written when Lipotrim was looking for a licence to trade here, thankfully the IMB were worried and looked into it in depth , eventually giving it a licence for Ireland ..ie' they passed it!

I'm a Taxi driver, I have no agenda,(here's my site for proof) I've used the product with great success, I'd like others that are considering it not to be put off by those here who may have agendas, some of those most vociferous have said they are personal trainers, yoga instructors , chinese therapists blah blah etc, these people do not want to lose custom to Lipotrim and will fight tooth and nail to kill it!

There is a video on the lipotrim site which will give an idea what to expect, when you visit your GP/ Pharmacist they will explain the system and will not start the program for a few days and you have considered it.
Each week you will be weighed and your symptoms accessed , the main worry is that you may have weight acquired conditions such as diabetes and suchlike, weightwatchers and the gym won't bother with this by the way!

I'd like to apologise to those I've offended and I will endeavor to behave more rationally, but please, no more scare mongering and yes I resent the opinion that because I didn't choose your method I'm a lesser mortal, I congratulate anyone that manages to get their weight back in line, it's difficult whatever method you choose including Lipotrim

there are before and after pictures of me in links in my previous posts , or the link I added earlier in this post will suffice!

So how much weight did you lose?The only difference i can see in your before and after pics is that in one you're leaning forward and the other you're standing up straight.Either i'm missing something or the steroids are interfering with my powers of observation.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 17-11-2007 01:52PM

are you serious?

I'm not a fitness enthusiast, but I've been reading this thread... and while I'd agree with the anti-lipotrim crowd.. it's very clear from those pictures how much weight he lost.

very clear.

roy123456789 · 17-11-2007 03:49PM

Mordeth wrote: »

are you serious?

I'm not a fitness enthusiast, but I've been reading this thread... and while I'd agree with the anti-lipotrim crowd.. it's very clear from those pictures how much weight he lost.

very clear.

Thanks, that one really stung, it gives me another excuse to plug my blog though,HAHA
What do you think;
Here's the proof,(again), me, before and after

Read the rest of the blog as well ...it's dead good......... I promise MUHAHAHA
See.......... I did have an agenda after all ........thanks for visiting

celestial · 17-11-2007 04:03PM

numorouno wrote: »

calm calm calm calm:D

under no circumstance DO NOT TRY this thing. i did it for a day and a half last october and it was easily the worst thing i ever did.i was absolutly starving, had terrible headaches and felt depressed.

its been said time and time again the hard way is the best way and iv seen that after liptrom. the week after i came off that i joined a gym, started training properly and now since then iv lost 3 stone and i feel great.

IMO lipotrim is a disaster. my 2c

Roy, can I ask you why is it that you can't do what this poster did? Lose the fat in the only safe and reliable way that is also the only sustainable way.

You can't cheat the human body. It wasn't designed to function on liquid food -it needs whole food. Are you goin to take lipotrim forever? It's quite obvious that you want the quick fix and are not prepared to put in the work to make the change like the poster quoted above, did. It is tricky - I'm overweight myself - but the only way is through hard work and committing to making the right changes. Going for the quick fix won't work long term and I think at the back of it all you realise that. There is a wealth of information and support on this forum for someone who respects themselves enough to treat their body well and lose excess fat in a safe reliable way, long-term.

roy123456789 · 17-11-2007 04:19PM

celestial wrote: »

Roy, can I ask you why is it that you can't do what this poster did? Lose the fat in the only safe and reliable way that is also the only sustainable way.

You can't cheat the human body. It wasn't designed to function on liquid food -it needs whole food. Are you goin to take lipotrim forever? It's quite obvious that you want the quick fix and are not prepared to put in the work to make the change like the poster quoted above, did. It is tricky - I'm overweight myself - but the only way is through hard work and committing to making the right changes. Going for the quick fix won't work long term and I think at the back of it all you realise that. There is a wealth of information and support on this forum for someone who respects themselves enough to treat their body well and lose excess fat in a safe reliable way, long-term.

Too late, I'm finished the lipotrim program now, I chose it because it suited me , cold turkey is my chosen method for giving up addictions, it's the same way I gave up cigarettes 20 years ago.
My weight gain was rapid, when I gave up the smokes I started on fruit pastillles, so why shouldn't my weight loss be rapid too! I'm a determined individual and once I set my mind on something tend to see it through, I'll see my new lifestyle decisions through too, no worries, I won't slip back into massive weight gain ....simple as!

Do come visit y'all

ali.c · 17-11-2007 06:14PM

roy123456789 wrote: »

No, I've never been banned, I'm sorry if you feel i insult people, I feel very strongly about this product, I believe it's added years to my life and to have people spouting a pile of horse manure , who don't know what they are talking about offends me, Yes I put more faith in my GP and Pharmacist than I do some GYM pushing steroid androids. The Lipotrim formula as well as being very low calorie provides all the necessary nutrients a body needs, Do you seriously belive that GPs and Pharmacies would peddle a potion that led to heart and muscle tissue being depleted.....Get real!

sorry my bad i was confused. Anyhow how if you gave up the smokes 20yrs ago (fair play btw) and your weight gain was the result then i am sorry but 20yrs is not rapid weight gain.

Giving up smoking is not the same as losing weight. Air, water, food in that order. On the list of things you need to survive eh nicotine isnt on it!!

Lady Hawk · 19-01-2008 05:40PM

Hi, I was on Lipotrim for 2 months and I lost three stone. I stopped in the first week of December as I knew it would be difficult during xmas. I ate healthily and i kept the weight off. Even managed to lose an extra 2lbs! Its all about restriction and knowing that you cant stomach the same amount as you ised to eat. I'm now going back on it today, as I had planned. I know if I dont do it today, i never will. Good luck to anyone that is thinking of doing it. Just remember that you can. When I first started doing it i kept gagging....but that was because i knew id be giving up food. Its all in the mind. I started off at 15st 2lbs (size 18-20) and I'm now 12st. (size 12)If I can do it....you guys definately can! Best of luck to all

t-ha · 19-01-2008 06:21PM

Lady Hawk wrote: »

Hi, I was on Lipotrim for 2 months and I lost three stone. I stopped in the first week of December as I knew it would be difficult during xmas. I ate healthily and i kept the weight off. Even managed to lose an extra 2lbs! Its all about restriction and knowing that you cant stomach the same amount as you ised to eat. I'm now going back on it today, as I had planned. I know if I dont do it today, i never will. Good luck to anyone that is thinking of doing it. Just remember that you can. When I first started doing it i kept gagging....but that was because i knew id be giving up food. Its all in the mind. I started off at 15st 2lbs (size 18-20) and I'm now 12st. (size 12)If I can do it....you guys definately can! Best of luck to all

Good stuff Hawk, especially the bolded bit as that's what counts in the long-run.

Here's an article from t-nation about transitioning successfully from an extreme diet to a more normal one.

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1226387

dmcg21 · 29-01-2008 11:55AM

anonymous69 wrote: »

has anyone heard of this diet? my friend did it, lost 10pounds first week, but it costs €65/week???!

any experiences on it?

i monday and its really hard but it works i got weighed last nite and i lose 17lbs first week

Celticfire · 29-01-2008 11:59AM

dmcg21 wrote: »

i monday and its really hard but it works i got weighed last nite and i lose 17lbs first week

Any chance you could tell us a little about yourself? Age , weight , sex and why you went onto the liprotrim diet?

rubadub · 29-01-2008 01:12PM

dmcg21 wrote: »

i monday and its really hard but it works i got weighed last nite and i lose 17lbs first week

That is a shocking amount of weight to lose, unless you were severly overwieght and carrying a lot of bodily fluid. I would not be happy about that, and would consult a doctor.

It is disturbing that this crap is sold in pharmacies giving a false impression of it being safe and "medication". The majority of medicine info out there is quoting mg per kilo body mass, smaller doses for kids etc. Lipotrim makes no distinction at all. A 60stone man gets 500kcal, so does a 14stone man, even though their daily calorific needs are hugely different. If I was a pharmacist I wouldnt stock it.

moc_94041 · 29-01-2008 08:29PM

I was on Lipotrim for approx 3 months, now while i lost 4 stone i also lost a lot of hair-the amount lost varies from person to person. I personally found it easier to eat nothing than to restrict myself. The best way to maintain the weight loss is to join weight watchers/unislim as it helps you monitor what you are eating.

dmcg21 · 31-01-2008 04:10PM

Celticfire wrote: »

Any chance you could tell us a little about yourself? Age , weight , sex and why you went onto the liprotrim diet?

i'm 23 years old i weigh 16 stone, im female and for my health is the reason you:o

celestial · 31-01-2008 04:49PM

dmcg21 wrote: »

23 years old 16 stone,female and for my healt you:o

Does anyone out there use fully-formed English sentences anymore?

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