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Polish as official 3rd language
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exactly, they should be, but they're not. everyone of them is exempt from Irish. It's funny, because the country is actually just bending for them. I mean, we're paying for everything they get for free (taxes) - they have better houses (or atleast houses, while some irish still don't) than most hard working irish would have (for free), and houses still being built for them (not the irish w/o homes) | I know plenty of people living in apartments. There's a group of polish up the road from me living in big sized 2 storey houses. what the fúck is up with that??This is an absolute disgrace,who do they think they are,we are losing all of our culture and heratige because all of our polaticians and irish people in general are to scared about commenting on immagration and defending our culture,whats next polish before irish in schools what a joke,they should all have to learn english before they come over here,which most of them cant,im actually incensed with rage at the moment:mad:
they are luckly to be here and are taking to many liberties as it is ie quiting jobs every 5 months and going back to poland for two weeks to avoid paying tax,becuase the ones i know do that and so do all their friends!
and we all know that when this building boom ceases they will all go back to poland or move on to another country,leaving whatever cultural identiy we irish have left in taters.with polish as our third language,its almost laughable
**** off if they come here they send there children to irish schools where they wil learn irish just like the rest of us,cheeky *****
when was the last time the government handed you what you wanted?
but this just takes the cake. We can't read.. so you change for us ok?![:\](https://www.boards.ie/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
but why don't we? I mean, there's already 1/2 our daily paper in polish (which we pay for ) - polish radio, polish shops, etc etc etc. tbh - It's their problem if they can't adjust. but IMO, they should all have to learn Irish like we do, and if not.. buh bye. 0 -
challengemaster wrote: »exactly, they should be, but they're not. everyone of them is exempt from Irish. It's funny, because the country is actually just bending for them. I mean, we're paying for everything they get for free (taxes) - they have better houses (or atleast houses, while some irish still don't) than most hard working irish would have (for free), and houses still being built for them (not the irish w/o homes) | I know plenty of people living in apartments. There's a group of polish up the road from me living in big sized 2 storey houses. what the fúck is up with that??
when was the last time the government handed you what you wanted?
but this just takes the cake. We can't read.. so you change for us ok? but why don't we? I mean, there's already 1/2 our daily paper in polish (which we pay for ) - polish radio, polish shops, etc etc etc. tbh - It's their problem if they can't adjust. but IMO, they should all have to learn Irish like we do, and if not.. buh bye.
Get used to that.
You will be seeing this more often.
get your self a nice job.If you cant get it than get ur self some Education.
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challengemaster wrote: »exactly, they should be, but they're not. everyone of them is exempt from Irish. It's funny, because the country is actually just bending for them. I mean, we're paying for everything they get for free (taxes) - they have better houses (or atleast houses, while some irish still don't) than most hard working irish would have (for free), and houses still being built for them (not the irish w/o homes) | I know plenty of people living in apartments. There's a group of polish up the road from me living in big sized 2 storey houses. what the fúck is up with that??
when was the last time the government handed you what you wanted?
but this just takes the cake. We can't read.. so you change for us ok? but why don't we? I mean, there's already 1/2 our daily paper in polish (which we pay for ) - polish radio, polish shops, etc etc etc. tbh - It's their problem if they can't adjust. but IMO, they should all have to learn Irish like we do, and if not.. buh bye. My sarcasm detector isn't working too well today but I'll assume you're taking the piss.
dc69, what a pile of crap you just spouted. This was one guy, some magazine editor who probably wants to up his readership. He's not representative of the entire Polish population in Ireland. Polish people do learn English in school aswell and those that I have met have a far better command of the English language then most Irish people have of any foreign language.dc69 wrote:they are luckly to be here and are taking to many liberties as it is ie quiting jobs every 5 months and going back to poland for two weeks to avoid paying tax,becuase the ones i know do that and so do all their friends!
They're lucky to be in Ireland, how so? They're an EU member state and just like Ireland, have right to free movement of people within the EU. Maybe we should just take all the benefits the EU has to offer and give absolutely nothing in return. :rolleyes:0 -
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ah i was just ranting..
calmed down now. so like, scrap most/all what i said.
I don't really think we should let our native lang die out though.. (even though i did hate it a while back) then again, thats getting into another convo..0 -
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So one fanatical idiot (who sounds a lot like our home-grown language Nazis ... see for example another thread in this forum ... actually, see THIS thread!) spouts gibberish, and everyone jumps on the bandwagon and uses it as an opportunity to bash, as usual.connundrum wrote: »A guy (the editor I think) from Szpila Magazine, a Polish Community mag was on the radio this morning promoting the idea of introducing Polish as the official 3rd language of Ireland.
True ... just as the Irish did in England 20-30 years ago.However, I don't think many of them plan to settle here forever. Is it not more the case that they want to work here for a few years, save up and go home to live in Poland?
Absolutely. I know quite a few Poles and Lithuanians who live (and work damn hard) in Ireland, and they would laugh their holes off at this idea.As a result, wouldn't the addition of the language be pointless in the long run.
Agreed.As economic immigrants they knew the score when they were coming here. We speak english and not polish, so it's up to them to get a grasp of the language.
You do? :eek: What on earth makes you think that? (I can only suspect that this chap is trying to grab his 15 minutes of fame and perhaps make a name for himself.
, btw!)
Yep!but this 'idea' is madness.
I wish people would, mate!Let's try and remember that the Poles haven't actually asked for this. It's been put forward by the editor of one magazine. I'd hate to see any resentment or backlash at these people for the actions of one guy.
Let's keep that in focus.
He is, actually, he's from Leixlip ... bound to be at least half a Viking (and just look at him! proof!)(Terry's) not foreign is he?
Agreed there ... we should know something about all our European partners, surely? ... and especially when there are a fair few over here.Even still I agree whole heartedly that they should learn English and practise that. Polish history though? I'd consent to that - it makes sense to educate kids about the kind of people they live with. Personally I dont know a damn thing about Eastern Europe.
I mean - if you want them to know English, they should have you know a little about them too, correct? Its only good manners.
QFTTo an Irish speaker like myself who tries to use it as regularly as possible in the right circumstances, it does seem a bit disingenuous that someone who posts so much on boards.ie and yet posts so little in the all-Irish forum, would be so insistent in speaking/writing Irish (only) in a situation like this which is clearly lacking in Irish speakers. If you at least posted bi-lingually, it would be acceptable, but posting in Irish only here is just being rude. It smacks of trolling. You're doing the Irish language and Irish speakers no favours sir. :mad:
And even if they do, won't honour his rudeness with a response.And insisting on speaking Irish to people who don't understand it makes you look deluded at best and downright rude at worst.
... you seem too pig-headed about the issue to meet other people half way. You're just coming across as a ass and what's worse, you're getting all other Irish speakers tarred with the same brush by doing so.
Seriously, ask yourself, are you achieving anything by insisting on speaking Irish only to a bulk of people who don't understand it?
Sounds a lot truer to my experience of this issue.I had a polish girlfriend for a couple of months and she had a very good command of the english language. Though a couple of her friends didn't but I think they were all going to english classes at their own expense. She even had a couple of words of irish when she went home.
Yep!If they successfully invade and keep control of the country for 400 years, while at the same time forcing us to speak Polish, banning schooling for most people and forcing 75% of the population to either starve of leave the country, then we'll give it a go.
Is that cool with everyone?
God bless you for practicing satire, my son!
I hope so too! My sarcasm detector isn't working too well today but I'll assume you're taking the piss.
Unfortunately, many Irish people seem to think this way ... and without the :rolleyes:They're lucky to be in Ireland, how so? They're an EU member state and just like Ireland, have right to free movement of people within the EU. Maybe we should just take all the benefits the EU has to offer and give absolutely nothing in return. :rolleyes:
You know, this is the first of these types of threads I have read in AH for a long time ... I remember why now! Some of the posts make me want to cry!
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Hi. I've just moved here from a foreign country and am looking for a way to unsettle the natives and create a general dislike for my fellow countrymen.
Does anyone know of a quick way of doing this? Brilliant. Terry you know how to make us laugh.
Introducing a third language is ridiculous, people can't even master the first language. If anything the immigrants should be learning Gaeilge.
On seconds thoughts, the whole nation should be learning Gaeilge. There'll be a revival - soon...0 -
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gal_anonim wrote: »Being Polish I feel I could add my 2cents to discussion.
First of all I don't think it's reasonable/good/whatever to request from anyone in a country you emmigrate to to learn your language or change the whole way documments and public signs are printed/made.
If you go to forreign country you're either expected to know it's native language or speak one that is considered international - in both cases English.
Plus it would do us good if some of us learned foreign languages and not come here and expect miracles and ask our hosts to learn our own language. Especially most of us will be gone from here within 10 years or so.
Now to make it clear I'm proud of being Polish and find my language most beautiful but c'mon folks - be realistic.
That's a good attitude to have. 0 -
gal_anonim wrote: »Being Polish I feel I could add my 2cents to discussion.
First of all I don't think it's reasonable/good/whatever to request from anyone in a country you emmigrate to to learn your language or change the whole way documments and public signs are printed/made.
If you go to forreign country you're either expected to know it's native language or speak one that is considered international - in both cases English.
Plus it would do us good if some of us learned foreign languages and not come here and expect miracles and ask our hosts to learn our own language. Especially most of us will be gone from here within 10 years or so.
Now to make it clear I'm proud of being Polish and find my language most beautiful but c'mon folks - be realistic.
:eek: I some time deal with polish people from UK over the phone.
what I have found very strange is that they call "@ sign monkey tail":D
Isnt that beautiful 0 -
digitally-yours wrote: »:eek: I some time deal with polish people from UK over the phone.
what I have found very strange is that they call "@ sign monkey tail":D
Isnt that beautiful
Well I only heard the 'monkey' version without 'tail'
but I'm glad you like it 0 -
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gal_anonim wrote: »Well I only heard the 'monkey' version without 'tail'
but I'm glad you like it
I have Polish Wife. I haven't choice. 0
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