Heroes *episodes 7-22; SPOILERS WITHIN

iguana · 11-11-2006 03:02PM #1

*****Episode 7*****

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iguana · 11-11-2006 03:07PM

Previous posts on this episode from old thread.

Squill wrote:

Enjoyed this week's episode.. although it suffered from a severe lack of Hiro and Ando (never thought i'd hear myself saying that after despising them in the pilot.. but they're brillant fun characters, and have great chemistry in the show).

Out of all the plotlines, the only ones that aren't grabbing me are Peter and Nathan's storylines (which is moving a bit too slow).. well, actually let me re-phrase that, Peter's is moving steadily enough in terms of Isaac and the paintings. But Nathan's story is going nowhere. And with his other half in a wheelchair? Obviously that's leading somewhere but better move up the pace!

And the Nikki / Jessica storyline is quickly losing steam fast.. any scenes with Ali Larter and i almost instantly switch off. Her one frozen expression face, brutal acting and snail pace of a plotline just ruins any chance of me developing any interest in that character's future.

But enjoyed the stuff with Clare and her brother.. couple of quirky funny moments and i liked the YouTube reference (was only a matter of time before we heard a YouTube reference in a show).

Glad to see Grunberg back in it as Matt.. thought his scenes with the best in this week's episodes if just for the set design on the "melted house" alone. But his character does really interest me.. it's the whole internal conflict between wanting and not wanting the powers given to you.

And i think i read Clea DuVall was becoming a regular.. she just disappeared after Carnivalé.

PS - also for '24' fans.. i only finished 'Day 5' on Sunday night but did ye all spot Miles Papazian in tonight's episode? Hard to miss!

tvnutz wrote:

I'm quite liking Nikki's storyline now. Is it a coincidence that her ex also has powers? And her evil side seems to be gaining more control and also seems to have super strength. I don't think she is a bad actress either,not great or anything,I mean her kid out acts her! She is also very fine

I also like Clea Duvall,would be good if she became a regular.

And from 1x07 thread

Ivan wrote:

As for the episode in question, I quite liked the exploding car bit with Hiro, yet again my favourite character so far. His child like fascination every time he uses his power is not only funny but exactly the way I'd be

Micka has a bit of a crappy super power but then I guess its early days yet

I still cant believe Peter (I think his name is, the guy who can tap into other peoples powers when he is around them) hasnt realised how his power works, yet. Its a bit frustrating
Though the dream bit combined with the black guys timely death seems to suggest there is more to it than even we have considered.

And yeah, I love the crossovers between the different stories... should make for interesting results when they all finally converge

Not the best episode so far but quite good all the same.

tvnutz wrote:

Even though I have already commented on the other thread I might as well say I enjoyed this ep. I am liking Nikki's story even though others don't seem to. She has gotten a lot more interesting recently.

Also Greg Grunberg is great,good character and actor.

The Petreilli (sp?) bros story isn't great. Well Peter's is not bad,but the giy who can actually fly,he is boring me so far.

iguana · 11-11-2006 03:36PM

Not the best episode but better than last weeks. I loved the bit with Hiro telling Micah about how the comic is about him "Yatta." And the way Micah looked to Ando for confirmation and Ando nods and points to Hiro and Micah goes "didn't you visit my mom?" I also thought DL, wondering how he ended up at the side of the road instead of the center of the explosion, must be thinking "I have more powers:cool:"

I don't mind the pace the show moves at, while it moves too slowly for my desire to see them all get together I still enjoy every minute of each episode.

Ivan, re Peter. When he talked to Mohinder he did know how his powers worked, insomuch as we do. He told him that he seemed to mimic the powers of any super-powered beings around him. But now with his dreaming thing there seems to be a bit more than that. I had originally thought that Simone's father had some sort of precognative ability as Peter had the dreams about flying when he was around him. So he was syphoning his power. But that does not appear to be the case now. I think Peter may be an empath, and part of his empathic power is to pick up on the ability to use the super powers of other individuals.

When Peter was having his flight dreams, in ep 1, which linked him to his brother it may be because Nathan was having those dreams. I think Nathan discovered his ability to fly during the accident which crippled his wife. By flying he saved himself but couldn't save his wife which explains his bitterness at the uselessness of his flying ability. I think his selfishness toward Peter is actually his ham-fisted attempts to save his brother from messing up because of his powers, as he feels he has.

As for radioactive man, there are a lot of possibilities from this new character. Does he blow up New York? Does Sylar eat his brain and Claire's brain and then blow up New York, survive and go on to blow up somewhere else? (If brain eating to gain poweres is what Sylar does). Does Peter blow up New York because he is in proximity to radioactive man? (Don't think so but it's possible I guess). If both he and Matt have the same marks on their neck were they put there by Bennet's pet telepath and do they trigger him to blow up New York, accidently or otherwise? Or is he a complete red-herring and is New York blown up by a bomb.

roar_ie · 13-11-2006 02:16AM

When we met radioactive man, I instinctively thought that this guy was responsible for the explosion in New York. His mentioning of not knowing what would happen if the 2 FBI agents shot him, leads me to that conclusion. My guess is at the very least he is the trigger. Someone else, like Syler could be the one to set him off.

It was nice to see some of the storylines/characters starting to come together and using their powers, Hiro and DL. I am looking forward to more of this in the coming episodes as the various stories start coming together.

All in all IP enjoyed the episode and continue to enjoy the series and I am looking forward to seeing how everything progresses.

Basq · 14-11-2006 11:27PM

*****Episode 8*****

I don't know.. this week's episode just didn't do it for me. I didn't particularly feel like a whole lot happened.

Might just be me.. but it all washed over me a bit.

The scenes with Mohinder were all a bit forgettable - yes, we understand the metaphor of the "Do you wish to quit?" prompt on the screen.. but dilute half the episode with Mohinder's internal struggle. But noticed the name on the file that Mohinder was holding? Sanjog Iyer.. bit close to Sylar.

Favourite bits were Matt's though they felt quite brief. The bits with Hiro and Ando were also quite good.. hmmmmmm... i wonder will Hiro will rescue the waitress! :rolleyes:

Odd that two elements of what i was complaining about last week actually are in a way i missed this week. None of Nikki's backstory.. as i wanted to see more about what's happening Micah and D.L. And also nothing about Peter and Nathan.

But next week is presumably the episode with Clare facing up to Sylar.. so should be mighty mighty interesting!

Mr E · 15-11-2006 10:02AM

I thought it was a good episode, Brian. At least they're consistantly good with very little filler. And is it wrong for me to cheer when I don't see Ali Larter's name in the credits at the start? Schizo Niki is the only character thats really starting to annoy me.

I spotted the Sanjog Iyer bit too.... I wonder if he was patient zero?

User45701 · 15-11-2006 11:10AM

iguana wrote:

*****Episode 7*****

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I have to say it seems like a lot of hassle
why not just do my good idea?

Every week someone creates a new topic WITH A POLL for each new episode so that makes all the heroes people happy and then to stop all those moaners once a week when we create a new thread just merge the previous thread with it, that way every week there is a poll for the most recent episode and also there is only 1 thread for all episode discussion

Mr E · 15-11-2006 11:24AM

Can you merge 2 poll topics?

tvnutz · 15-11-2006 11:52PM

User45701 wrote:

I have to say it seems like a lot of hassle
why not just do my good idea?

Every week someone creates a new topic WITH A POLL for each new episode so that makes all the heroes people happy and then to stop all those moaners once a week when we create a new thread just merge the previous thread with it, that way every week there is a poll for the most recent episode and also there is only 1 thread for all episode discussion

Oh come on man, we have been over this and over this. Byte made his decision and IMO this is far better than have loads of threads.

As for this episode,I think it was a little slow as well. It seems Claire's dad is not really a bad guy as some suggested. Mohinder's stuff was fairly boring and yes I did miss Nikki,Micah and DL...I think they have a very exciting story.

Is every episode going to be "to be continued"? It works really well but is very annoying because I just want more!

I also noticed the name on the folder was similar to Syler but meh,might be a bit of a stretch.

iguana · 17-11-2006 12:20AM

User45701 wrote:

I have to say it seems like a lot of hassle
why not just do my good idea?

Every week someone creates a new topic WITH A POLL for each new episode so that makes all the heroes people happy and then to stop all those moaners once a week when we create a new thread just merge the previous thread with it, that way every week there is a poll for the most recent episode and also there is only 1 thread for all episode discussion

Take it up on feedback, lets just keep this thread for discussing the show, yeah?

So does Mohinder have powers too then? Some sort of past dreaming? I wish he didn't, it would be nice to see a central character who doesn't have powers. I know we have Ando and I guess Bennet, but I would have liked for Mohinder to have just been ordinary.

Erin obviously has some sort of convincer/pusher powers where she can make people do whatever she asks. But she doesn't like using them so she didn't with Mohinder in ep 6. Why didn't she and Bennet just go get Peter and have him paint instead of Isaac? I wonder if there is more to that, as Erin would surely have reported Peter's suspicions about his powers to Bennet and he would have cause to investigate as he know's Nathan can fly.

Don't know if I want Hiro to save memory girl or not. I guess next weeks episode will concentrate on Hiro and her storyline. And we'll see Peter find Isaac's missing picture and head to Texas. Then the following week will be Sylar 'v' Claire and the rest of the heros.

Oh, and who else hates voiceover guy at the start? I laughed out loud a couple of weeks ago when he intro'd Matt's story with "AND THE COP WHO READS MINDS, USES HIS POWERS ..... TO SAVE HIS MARRIAGE!!!!!!!"

Basq · 17-11-2006 12:25AM

iguana wrote:

Oh, and who else hates voiceover guy at the start? I laughed out loud a couple of weeks ago when he intro'd Matt's story with "AND THE COP WHO READS MINDS, USES HIS POWERS ..... TO SAVE HIS MARRIAGE!!!!!!!"

Indeed.. and it seems to be the same (or very similar) voice-over extracts used week after week. Just downright irritating!

Mossy Monk · 17-11-2006 02:34AM

User45701 wrote:

I have to say it seems like a lot of hassle
why not just do my good idea?

Every week someone creates a new topic WITH A POLL for each new episode so that makes all the heroes people happy and then to stop all those moaners once a week when we create a new thread just merge the previous thread with it, that way every week there is a poll for the most recent episode and also there is only 1 thread for all episode discussion

your good idea?

STFU already

User45701 · 17-11-2006 08:03AM

tvnutz wrote:

Oh come on man, we have been over this and over this. Byte made his decision and IMO this is far better than have loads of threads.

Read what i said again there would just be 1 thread for all you moaners out there

Mr E · 17-11-2006 10:56AM

Let it go, User45701.... you're flogging a dead horse here.

Basq · 20-11-2006 09:13AM

According to Herc from AintItCoolNews.com, tonight's episode is the best yet! :eek:

Cannot wait for it!

Mr E · 20-11-2006 09:35AM

Just read that, basquille... can't wait!

Kur4mA · 20-11-2006 04:34PM

I'm dying to see this too! Heroes owns on my new 32" Bravia

Sleepy · 20-11-2006 06:04PM

Could definitely do without the Nikki storyline alright. It's just boring.

Kur4mA · 20-11-2006 06:37PM

Ah, I have to say the Nikki storyline has grown on me a lot. At first I was just bored by her but with the introduction of DL and Micah being taken by him, it has made her, the story and the whole situation a lot more interesting.

I still prefer a lot of the other characters and their stories but can't wait to see what she does next!

tvnutz · 21-11-2006 04:59PM

*********EPISODE 9*********

Damn that was a good episode!

I got so engrossed in it that I actually thought Peter was dead. Of course I should have known better and seen it coming that he would absorb Claire's powers and heal himself. And now he gets arrested :rolleyes:

Will they kill off D.L? Hope not,he is an interesting character.

I was a little disappointed that Hiro and Ando where not there to help save Claire,but Peter did an alright job!

Looks like we will see if Hiro can save whats her face with the annoying accent.

Syler has been captured...now that should be interesting. That was fairly nasty what he did to the annoying cheerleader. I thought he had been using a weapon of some sort be he is literally taking off their heads unsing his mind. :eek:

Mohinder's story wasn't amazing,it was just a way to get him back to the US,which we knew would eventually happen anyway.

Is it one more episode before the break? Ill miss this show.I have really gotten into it. If I have one complaint it is that annoying voice over at the start,it is so corny and annoying.

thewools · 21-11-2006 10:20PM

loving this show... only after watching first 5, waiting on my postman to eh "deliver" the rest now!!! quality stuff...

lazygit · 21-11-2006 11:19PM

tvnutz wrote:

Is it one more episode before the break?/quote]

according to tv.com

10 Six Months Ago 11/27/2006
11 Fallout 12/4/2006
12 Godsend 12/18/2006
13 Episode 13 1/1/2007

Kur4mA · 21-11-2006 11:43PM

WOW! Really great episode! I actually cheered when Peter just opened his eyes and started healing himself, and Claire was like :eek:. Such a great moment!

This was definitely the best episode so far IMO and I am looking forward to it every week- even more so now.

The only thing that annoyed me about this episode(and it was only a slight annoyance) was the fact that Sylar was dealt with so easily by the scary duo who work with Claire's father. Heroes is the best thing on TV by far at the moment.

regeneration · 21-11-2006 11:59PM

So the speculation has to be what Claire's dad is going to do with Sylar? Lock him up? Use him?

User45701 · 22-11-2006 12:25AM

im starting to find parts of this show predictble. it was so obvious from very early on that clares healing effect would rub off on him.
what should have happened but didnt was peter should of got all of Sylers nice powers aswell!

Basq · 22-11-2006 02:20AM

Another damn fine episode!

Got a better look at Sylar in this episode than past episodes anyways.. was half thinking they'd keep his identity secret til later in the season. But now that's he relatively unknown to us gives greater possibilities to how his character (and powers) came about.

Speaking of which, how horrible was Sylar's "Tin Opener" trick.. bet he'd be a whizz in the kitchen at those tricky Heinz beans cans!

Think it's been said before but it's quite surprising how bloody and gory this show can be on occasions. Oh, and some top notch effects on Claire's face being re-mended.. what typically would probably look a like plasticine being moulded back together looked quite realistic.

The scenes with Clare and Peter were top notch.. always great to see the "heroes" crossing paths.. and did i notice Clare has a little "something-something" for Peter? Might have been some flirting there. Also noticed how apprehensive Mr Bennett was to go back and see Peter.

Yes, Mohinder's scenes were all a bit tired.. seeing as we all knew he'd go back to the US. But did anyone else spot the familiar names on the list Mohinder found? I paused and spotted Clare, Matt, Peter, Hiro, DL, Isaac and Niki. Noticed a couple of RED deceased on there too.

Doubt they'll kill off DL this early.. took me a moments to realise who "Jessica Sanders" was with the gun near the start.

My only qualm is i don't like the whole 'Six Months Earlier' storyline for Hiro and the waitress inevitably due to unveil over the next episode or two. The show is moving at a steady pace right now with more and more of the heroes crossing each other's path.. do we really need a waste a show on the waitress storyline? Something good better come out of it.

PS - was i the only one who spotted the bloke wearing the BSG shirt in the crowd?

Oh, and the whole crowd of freaks applauding the "once popular now realised she's a freak" was a horrible cliché.. almost unforgivable if this show wasn't damn excellent in every other respect!

PPS - hopefully that's the end of the naff "Save The Cheerleader.. Save The World" tagline!

User45701 wrote:

what should have happened but didnt was peter should of got all of Sylers nice powers aswell!

Are you saying it was a plot goof, or you wanted it to happen? Sylar left while Peter was still injured though, as Clare said he ran away before she got there!

Kur4mA · 22-11-2006 02:23AM

regeneration wrote:

So the speculation has to be what Claire's dad is going to do with Sylar? Lock him up? Use him?

I reckon he's gonna try to use him but it will backfire. I'm starting to think that his double team act of scary quiet black guy and miss pretender(she doesn't REALLY care) are going to turn against him and/or side with Sylar.

Mr E · 22-11-2006 09:54AM

Great episode... I hope that the "6 months earlier" episode is going to deal with more than just Hiro and the cute waitress.

monkeyfudge · 22-11-2006 08:41PM

Apparently Christopher Eccleston is going to be joining the cast in the new year. Possibly to play

Sylar

That would be pretty cool.

Basq · 22-11-2006 08:56PM

monkeyfudge wrote:

Apparently Christopher Eccleston is going to be joining the cast in the new year. Possibly to play
Sylar
That would be pretty cool.

Re-he-ally?...

we practically saw Sylar (or should i say, who we "THINK" is Sylar) so i'd like to see how they'd get Chris into it..

.. would i correct in saying it's never been confirmed if this dark shadowed man IS in fact Sylar? IIRC, we first got the idea of "THAT'S Sylar" when Matt gave the dark shadowed man chase. But now that Mr Bennett has captured this man.. i've a feeling they may confirm it's NOT.

PS - Christopher Eccleston would be a great addition to the cast though!

Mossy Monk · 22-11-2006 09:13PM

excellent show again this week. i enjoyed the Mohinder in India scenes. if Ecclestone does join ans is anywhere near as good as he was in Doctor Who then i will be very happy