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Cork traffic

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Makes sense really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭jimbob955


    Hows traffic now? They seemed very slow fixing the traffic light issue.

    General question? Is it sensors or timing on traffic lights? Would the council do a survey.

    More traffic coming from West therefore they should get a longer green light over East traffic. Or how does it work??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Dbu


    Douglas still a disaster. Councillor Peter Horgan had an online saying Irish water cut the cables, so sensors are now not working and no date for them to be repaired…only in Cork would such stuff be tolerated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Empty cycle lanes in Mahon, it's been a while since I was there. Interesting concept these empty cycle lanes, why did they spend so much money on something like this? Another thing is that they really lead nowhere. Weird.

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    Car in the lane too, classic.

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    One hour later, still empty. Not one cyclist. Maybe it's the weather, 14 degrees chilly winds gusts. Yeah nah.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Pedestrians, pests. Nothing else, one thing is that it is already difficult sometimes to make some reasonable progress in Cork city when driving the car/van/motorbike/bus/lorry, they come along and add extra layer of difficulty. State of this place.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Frostybrew


    Empty roads also. Only two cars using the roads, and one car illegally and dangerously parked. Waste of money IMO spending all this money on all these roads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    On a serious note, in Mahon one side of the greenway has a reasonably high cycle mode share while a few metres to the other side of the greenway, the cycle mode share drops to almost zero. The contrast was quite stark when you mapped the census small area numbers. They proposed a kind of "whole area regeneration scheme" to try to increase numbers because it would have an impact on the city overall. They're also trying to improve desirability of Mahon as a place to live.

    In general though, posting photos of extremely quiet roads while complaining about unused cycle infrastructure makes little sense: protected cycle infrastructure is not generally created because cyclists are already in the majority, rather because so many of them get mowed down that their numbers have fallen extremely low. If cyclists were in the majority they wouldn't need protected segregation.

    To extrapolate to other areas: Kerry airport gets government subsidies, rural transport gets subventions, childrens allowance, a graduated tax system etc: there's thousands of areas where the government intervenes to rebalance a system. We invest in the scarce things which it is government policy to encourage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    A lot more cars in few seconds than bicycles in an hour. Let's put a CCTV camera somewhere and count all bicycles in 24 hours huh? Cork city isn't a place for cycling. Even now in the summer very few people cycle, weather just sucks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    There's literally nowhere to go there in Mahon on a bicycle. It's a waste of money and space. That's why they are empty those cycle lanes. People really don't cycle in Cork city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Now they're building these cycle lanes in the north side, it's laughable. Nobody ever cycles there.

    Baker's street, nobody ever parked their bicycle here. Because people don't cycle in this area. Yeah let's go to town and then back again up that steep hill. Sure.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    Just go by the Telraam counters instead, it's a lot easier. Here's one in Mahon:

    https://telraam.net/en#15/51.8948/-8.4065

    Census numbers are a bit more of a vague indicator also but nonetheless both methodologies broadly agree. It's somewhere between 4-6% of traffic / mode share.

    I think you may have just ignored my whole post though, might be worth reading (maybe not!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    It would be foolish to say "we shouldn't build a train line here because nobody takes the train here". Or "we shouldn't build a port here because nobody sails from here" but somehow this line of argument is considered acceptable when it comes to cycling and bus networks.

    What is it about these mode shares that so triggers drivers? Is it that upsetting to watch buses and bicycles overtake us in traffic maybe? "I paid a lot of money for this and now I feel impotent / emasculated" etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,825 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Build the cycling infrastructure and people are more likely to cycle.



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