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Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭jj880


    Billy big balls?

    Bit rich that since you seem to know what a civil case judge will do.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭DXR


    I would estimate, there's 100sx1000s on this island using IPTV as end users.

    You would have to wonder, if it's potentially such a slam dunk...... How many end users have Sky slam dunked as of 2026?

    Surely there's a handful at least?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    By definition, stolen is depriving an owner of their property. Sky still have their property



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    True. It does strike me though as the kind of thing that would be included in the reporting around it though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,607 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    "Step on me harder corpo daddy!!!"

    Fine if you think people pirating is wrong etc etc but they state of people on here defending with ever letter the type the likes of Sky and thinking "hey you know what im gonna stand up for the corporate behemoth because they need defending"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I'm not defending them, I'm just outlining how they have a strong hand in a civil case

    They have the link between the seller and the users, and if it came to a court case users who ignored cease and disest warnings.

    They probably have more, they probably picked the 200 to send letters to from the 300 they had details on because they have social media posts about them watching EPL games at home or something.

    On the other hand we are getting all sorts of rubbish from people about how they would stand up in court, get the proceutors phone and show the world how easy it is to get an illegal stream etc, or ask Sky to prove packets from a Sky source ended up on their home network.

    There is a thread over on the Legal forum called "Freeman on the land mega merge". That's where a lot of this garbage belongs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    Can't wait for the 3 year anniversary of this thread, surely the clampdown will start on the 3rd anniversary!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    Noone is sticking up for Sky.

    But you can see their angle. we paid for the right to broadcast the content so why should people who steal it and resell it get away with stealing our profits.

    Any business would do the same is someone stole your design and started selling a product you made had a patent for.

    What needs pointing out is the clueless idiots here who think they would be able to get away with being caught in a civil court.

    Hopefully they all have good lawyers who would persuade from doing the idiotic things being posted here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    im already feeling pretty clamped, so maybe, job done!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭jj880


    Ffs man have you not been reading the thread! Its as good as a done deal. Posty has delivered the promise letterz!!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 tegaro


    Why do you say they cannot delve into your packet content?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭mrm


    ….and if it came to a court case users who ignored cease and disest warnings.

    They probably have more, they probably picked the 200 to send letters to from the 300 they had details on because they have social media posts about them watching EPL games at home or something.

    On the other hand we are getting all sorts of rubbish from people……..

    It's this approach to your posting that you take…all scaremongerring ifs, probablys, and every twist on your indepth understanding of the 'concrete cases' sky have on 200 of apparently 400k IPTV users. You come across as someone working for Sky who has been placed in this thread to scare a few away from IPTV use.

    And then you state "On the other hand we are getting all sorts of rubbish from people"….does this include all the hearsay guesswork within your posting?

    You pretend it is to educate posters for their benefit who might get caught….but something just doesn't fit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Oh the old "you must work for {insert name of company} line" if someone is not joining the echo chamber

    Sky are not going to take down multiple streaming networks with this action.

    But what they are going to do is scare some people into thinking twice about taking out an illegal streaming services, with the idea that if their supplier gets caught it could be traced back to them and they will get legal letters from Sky and the threat of court action.

    A lot of people are not dodgy box experts, a lot of people don't know how they work, a lot of people are afraid of technology, even technology as simple as a dodgy box.

    These sort of scare tactics work on these sort of people.

    And Sky are well within their rights to take this approach to protect their product.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭deezell


    Sorry to disappoint you, I don't have paid IPTV or a settop box. Never had. Even my old linux sat box is dead. I have a Sky Now Sport only share as I described earlier. €35/m for three connections, one person must hold and pay the account, €11.66 each among family.

    I have an android TV, with FTA Freesat tuners, and plenty of player and browser apps. Any device browser can access free stream EPGs websites, (these websites dont have servers attached, and don't stream anything). The epgs point to known worldwide streams of sporting events. This is useful on occasion, as it works on the phone or laptop when away, or for sport not available on sky/premier, such as the German 3Liga.

    I'm sure there are thousands of people with non mainstream sports interests or foreign tv requirements who use streams to feed their passion, or curiosity. We've a lot of immigrants here from all over the world. Whether they search their native tv programs out themselves, or just pay an iptv provider, is their business. If the iptv provider includes subscription streams from the big operators like Sky, along with thousands of FTA streams. it's hardly the end users fault.

    Find and close the servers, That's what Interpol and Europol are there for. Sky are trying to make out that IPTV is all about them. It's not. Individual Now sport is only €27/month, so its not a big deal to have that in your defence for your IPTV connection. Make Now more attractive. 🥕, not 🦯



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭deezell


    And thanks for the compliment to my testicle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I never suggested whether you had an illegal streaming service or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭deezell


    Wots this then? I quote;

    "The smoking gun is that you and others paid a dodgy box seller a certain amount of money on Revolute"

    ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    It's obviously a typo because how on earth would I know if you were one of the people on the list Sky have ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭mrm


    Oh the old "this old line again" deflection.

    You wrote this:

    "They probably have more, they probably picked the 200 to send letters to from the 300 they had details on because they have social media posts about them watching EPL games at home or something."

    Just simple hearsay FUD bullsh*t. You come across as trying too hard!

    Queue "Oh the old FUD accusation"!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭dubrov


    I think the proof is in the pudding. If it was so easy for sky to prosecute buyers, they would've done it already.

    I haven't heard of a single case they have even taken to court let alone won.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    If they take it to court and lose, they're f*cked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I'm just trying to figure why they are only sending letters to 200 of the 300+ they got details of.

    I'm thinking that it they are picking the lowest hanging fruit.

    People who they have names of that they also researched on social media and found posts by them talking about their dodgy boxes, or saying they are watching such and such a game at home etc

    Just extra ammo for Sky if they have to bring them to court.

    I'm just speculating.

    Why do you have such a problem with it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭mrm


    Because you just seem to be taking every opportunity to repost the same scaremongering crap that you cannot confirm under different pretences….firstly stating 'sky have a strong case'; then stating 'they are just trying scaremongering' and then stating 'I am just trying to figure what is going on here'.

    I find it a strange form of posting….something slightly disingenuous about it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    They haven't done so because they have not had the financial information before this.

    This time they have a verifiable money trial between the supplier and customers, and probably also have patterns in that money trail.

    That's huge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Sky can be scaring people and have a strong case at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭jj880


    Sky Italia got anyone into court yet?

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    sky should look at their own staff, the majority of them will also be consumers of these streams



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭DXR


    Sorry - someone needs to talk about the elephant in the room. This lad in Wexford certainly isn't the first seller sky have caught, and he will certainly not be the first that they'll have a "financial trail" with , that's not just in Ireland, there's been numerous cases in the UK also.

    I don't recall ever reading about a single case, not one, from what must be many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of end users paying for an IPTV sub , having been prosecuted, either successfully or unsuccessfully.

    It's almost, almost like it's not as big a slam dunk in court as some are implying it is.

    There's also the possibility mind you, that Sky are reluctant to even test the water, as an unsuccessful prosecution might be even worse for them than the scaremongering.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭mrm


    Sure sky have everything on everyone according to you.......probably, you know, you believe, you wonder!

    Well let's see how this one goes.

    But current update remains....almost 3 years after the birth of this thread it's IPTV business as usual.



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