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N25 - Midleton to Youghal [planning and design to commence 2023]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭jimbob955


    In a way it doesn't make sense you already have the Greenway to Youghal, why do you need another active travel corridor on it.

    An active travel corridor should have been delivered alongside the M28, as there is no competing AT corridor here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    I had suggested something like the drawing below, on the footprint of the existing roundabout. The cycle and pedestrian way at the eastern side is now at ground level, along with the roundabout to enable local N/S movement and join/leave N25 to and from Cork.

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    This is a limited-access junction, that facilitates only To-Cork/From-Cork motions (the overwhelming majority of movements at Lakeview) - I think this would be the best way to keep an access to N25 here in the limited space available, and it also allows the pedestrian link to be unobstructed by any road crossing. I expect the scheme to include a properly-sized full-access junction at the east of Midleton for other movements in and out of Midleton.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭Rulmeq


    Also, none of the students use it, I was stuck there coming from Waterford a few weeks back, and they were all crossing the road (with one very close call I might add). So anything is better than the current situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    Yes, in decades of driving through here, I cannot remember ever seeing anyone on this bridge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I've gone over that bridge, walking and cycling. It's terrible. However bad you think it is, it's actually worse. I'm quite a competent cyclist (I cycle a lot) and I would be wary of using that bridge from a technical competency level. Camber, tight concentric turns, gradient, low railing, etc. It's awful.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭Aontachtoir


    Well, there’s already a road between Middleton and Youghal, why would we need to build another?


    Any new road project should include a similar quality of improvements for all modes of transport. If cars are getting a direct car-friendly route from end to end, the same must be provided for cyclists, pedestrians, and public transport. The days of building roads for the benefit of the private car alone must be put firmly in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    The flyover wasn't part of the original deign for the bypass. It was only added after local protests. Might explain why it's such a bad design.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    Do you mean the weird pedestrian bridge wasn't part of the original design? I never heard that detail before. Hard to imagine, considering the Rocky Road underpass!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Correct. There was pressure to have an overpass/underpass added. Before the bypass there was a straight path into town from Lakeview and the locals didn't want to start crossing 4 lanes of traffic.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Website launched @ https://n25midletontoyoughal.ie



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    "

    Welcome to the N25 Midelton to Youghal Transport Project Page.

    "

    Bodes well 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Frostybrew


    I like the design of the website logo. It is suggestive of M25 motorway, with the N trailing into an M; and the use of the first letters of the towns of Midleton and Youghal to form MY, an abbreviation of the word motorway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭CR 7


    The N also mimics the shape of a flyover, and we have the arrow suggesting it will slip from 25Months to 25Years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    N for “Never”. “M→Y” months become years. Seriously, any attempts to read things into a logo that was most likely hacked together using AI is not going to yield any insights on the project.

    This will never be under motorway regulations, because Cork County Council has repeatedly prevented the N25, N20 and N22 approaches to Cork city being motorways, because motorways require parallel routes for prohibited traffic, and the budget for maintaining those would have to come from… Cork County Council.

    If you’re taking bets on cross-section, I’ll say 2+2 like the Macroom bypass. Anything wider will require huge disruption or a complete re-route at Midleton, and would be grossly over capacity as soon as you get beyond Castlemartyr.



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