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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,720 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    That figure isn't misleading, 23.3% of people in this country weren't born here.

    Screenshot_2026-06-01-11-34-39-912-edit_com.android.chrome.jpg

    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=EU_population_diversity_by_citizenship_and_country_of_birth

    We have the 4th highest rate in the EU. But the government when they quote figures will say Irish citizens because that is lower as a result of them handing out Irish citizenship like it's confetti.

    It's only increasing year on year. It was 17% in 2016, and 20% in 2022. You look at programmes like Reeling in the Years, or footage from the past and you would see an indigenous Irish population. In 1985 for example, which is well within our lifetimes, that figure was 2-3%.

    Now if you walk around certain parts of Ireland, you feel like a minority in your own country. I see it in certain schools, I see community centres that are used as a mosque as much as anything else. You see cricket pitches being put in as amenities in new housing developments. Go there at the weekend and it's full of Indian kids playing cricket.

    The government talks about foreign people integrating into Irish society and our culture. I by and large don't see it. Our local GAA club had an underage blitz tournament, I didn't see many foreign nationals playing. Look at our TV screens, The Sunday Game, where are these people coming through? They have their kids opt out of learning Irish in school. Go to Fleadh Cheoil, who's participating and largely attending?

    A large swathe of Irish people can't afford to buy homes. Our Irish birth rate is declining, and yet our population is growing rapidly. All of this is intertwined and if it keeps going, Irish people will end up a minority in our own country and some of our culture will be something read about in history books or maybe seen on future editions of Reeling in the Years. I don't know if some people are oblivious to what is happening, don't care, think they're virtuous or are too busy counting their profiteering. There's so many proverbs that describe what is happening to Ireland, slowly, slowly catchy monkey. Or fables too, the boiling frog. How long before we croak it?

    It's also not sustainable, as economists like David McWilliams have warned for some time.

    https://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/post/if-we-want-less-strain-on-capacity-we-should-limit-immigration-to-some-extent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Bertie saying he was concerned about the integration of second and third-generation Muslims, and suggesting we should be careful when it comes to immigrants from the Congo…

    Now we have scenes in Paris following PSG’s Champions League win, where many, many of those involved in rioting and public disorder would be children or grandchildren of African immigrants (particularly North African). And then a few days after his comment la the case of Yves Skaila - a homeless drug addict with a lengthy criminal record who was accused of theft - also attracted attention. Taken together, can’t help but think there may have been some substance to the concerns Bertie was expressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Bertie was 100% on the money. Thats the problem the govt has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    We don't need any statistics to tell us that there are crazy times ahead. All we have to do is to look at countries like GERMANY, UK or Sweden. From my recollection Stockholm was named the rape capital. A lot of events in Sweden has been hidden from the daily media. Multiple shootings between the "new Swedish".

    The scariest part is all we do is talk but there is no action from the government to stop this. How all these people enter Ireland I would like to know. As someone pointed out previously the Iranian girl killed (bless her!) was here before the war in Iran, so on what basis did she enter Ireland. Let's face it the guy who killed her was not irish. Yet the Irish tax payers are forking out the legal costs. The whole system is a farce and nobody is taking any steps to address these issues.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭fran38


    There are over five hundred pages belonging to this thread. And this thread is the second iteration of illegal immigration threads into Ireland. I wonder how people have the mental energy to keep particiapting here in terms of often very long posts & arguing the toss with posters of differing opinions, despite knowing the situation is not going to change. Yet the politicians keep conniving & planning behind closed doors oblivious to the cares of the community. Well…not oblivious because I feel they know exactly how we feel but they are beholden to secret deals made that it trumps national interest & social cohesion.

    I don't know where I'm going with this really. It's just an unerring feeling of raging against the dying of the light when gargantuan amounts of people totally at odds with western values continue to flood our shores.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Part of the problem is the majority of the political spectrum all support the open borders policy so its not like there is a "reform" type party who would toughen things up if they were in power.

    Another Part of the problem is, if you follow the money you see why



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Migdal_Or


    That's the second year in a row that this has happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,547 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    It is, in the context that poster was saying it.

    We will always have a number of EU and UK people living and working here .

    So it's the 9% that you want to reduce .Non EU , workers are the majority, and IPAS.

    Say it like it is then ..how do we do that ?

    We could opt out like Denmark has from immigration pacts or look for modifications to those. .

    We could deport many more who are found to be criminal, break the law here, or are not here to work , only game the system .

    Indeed EU citizens also can fall into that last category and there should be a higher emphasis on removing people like this from our country .

    But it is not something that will happen overnight and in the meantime our government are more interested in the EU Presidency and giving developers money to build for rent than building houses and keeping rents lower for the people in the country .

    In the meantime the people that are here need to be processed helped integrate and to work ,not empty rhetoric , slagging them all off as one entity or platitudes.

    I see few solutions being offered here or anywhere , from all parties .

    Post edited by Goldengirl on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Two months should be followed by deportations

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    for decades didn’t Irish citizens flood other shores….and you can be sure a certain percentage got involved in criminality / wrong side of the law, were regularly drunk and disorderly, etc and I’m sure some were deported…🤷



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Were they doing so on the back of social welfare, free accommodation, free healthcare etc.

    Irish people did indeed emigrate but they worked. A lot went to Australia, Canada, NZ ETC which was part of a visa application system for required skills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,170 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    pops up regularly, Shure the Irish emigrated, they should take in the world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Negative_G




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    and where / who is suggesting that we take in the world…..through our ‘open borders’ …….(to borrow a phrase from trump and that other lovely fellow farage…)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I make no comment on any particular case, just some general points:

    Bogus AS don't need any "basis" to enter Ireland.

    They simply arrive, say "asylum", and that sets in process their claim.

    It takes on average 68-81 weeks to process a claim, at a cost of €122,000 per person.

    During the claim, they must of course put forward grounds/arguments for the claim.

    Most claims correctly fail, but the failed AS are given leave-to-remain, and let stay here.

    Very few of the 165,000 AS who have made claims since 1995 have been removed.

    We spend €99 per night on accomm for bogus AS, the Dutch spend €13.50 per night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,720 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I heard on the radio today, the top story, that a man died after being stabbed numerous times.

    How our national broadcaster("The Truth Matters) headlines it:

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    "Assault"

    How the Independent headlines it.

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    "Stab victim"

    Now you can look up the stats on stabbings, and who the majority are that carry out these crimes in various countries and cities. You won't get that detail from the Gardaí:

    https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/publications/general-reports/knife-related-crime-2015-to-2024.pdf

    You only need to watch an episode of Crimecall to see evidence of this. I would say the trend of knife crime in Ireland overall is increasing. What a surprise.

    Other cities/countries do provide the background of who the majority of the victims are and who the perpetrators are. Regularly watching Sky News, I didn't need to be told this information.

    https://benkinsella.org.uk/knife-crime-in-the-capital-2021/

    I read the victim is from Nigeria, another fact omitted by RTE("The Truth Matters").



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I think all aides in this debate should recognise the nuances. There are different kinds of immigration. There are deserving and undeserving cases for asylum. There are workers we need, and unskilled workers we may not need as much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Can these figures be trusted….
    https://asylumineurope.org/reports/country/republic-ireland/statistics/

    Turkey with 3,000,000 has the most AS’s worldwide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Yes, the EU is paying them, yet Turkey is playing both sides. They keep extorting the EU with threats of releasing millions of migrants to get concessions, and smuggling those with money through.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭riddles


    surely an EU wide acceptance that only someone that comes through an EU migrant camp gets reviewed for possible asylum and the rest are out full stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭tastyt


    another murder for people on here to make excuses for . More head in sand and fingers in ears



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,720 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    The media don't help with their blinkered and biased reporting. Still no mention on the RTE Six One News about the man's nationality, even though it's been reported elsewhere.

    Interesting soundbite from a Dublin man being interviewed on the street today, and it's different from the clip in the RTE link I posted above. The other 2 women say the same in both reports. You'd wonder how it made it through editing, "A whole lot of Dublin is gone bad, all over. So, I do the security in the shops."

    The first woman interviewed says, "This Is not the first time something's happened, so it is actually very disturbing."

    She's right, it's not the first time, and it sadly won't be the last time either.

    Virgin Media News are the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Do you ever notice when its something that doesn't suit the race narrative, RTE and the MSM have no problem finding Seamus, Margaret or Jacinta to interview, knowing full well they wont say anything too controversial out of fear of losing their jobs or livelihoods due to the mouth foaming left.

    But when it comes to anything to do with housing, health, education etc, there's no shortage of New Irish to provide their insight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Remember how RTE and many other outlets chose to drop the photo of this particular individual.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/0527/1515192-drimnagh-investigation/

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    Bertie said what anyone who can open their eyes can see. Certain areas of Dublin are defacto no go areas now due to gangs of second generation "new irish".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭strathspey


    think Islam and Muslims are the problem world-wide. The Jews/Israelis are in habitual conflict. The Hindus and Pakistanis had to be partitioned and have recently gone to war with each other. The Chinese have a problem with the Muslim Uyghurs in China. Muslims in general have antipathy towards Western people but I'm amazed that despite this they always want to move to the West. As you can see in all these examples, the common denominator are Muslims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭dp22250


    The political leaders are facilitating the colonisation of the west bar some Eu countries say Poland for example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭bored65


    To add salt onto the wound they then proceed to self flagellate and blame “west” for all the problems of the “east” too especially the Islamic middle east

    just today alone I called this mad carry on here

    and here

    There’s an awful lot on the far left carrying heavy guilt for something we ain’t responsible for.

    No just because there’s is terrible stuff happening in parts of the world since biblical times doesn’t me we need to be responsible and import half the world here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,155 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Some RTE wag said a decade ago that "dublin is an unadulterated kip" 🤒



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭engineerws


    I've no problem with Islam. The Israelis have been raping, torturing and murdering Muslims and Christians since 1948 and before so can't really blame Muslims for being upset when their children are raped by dogs . As I said, look at Malaysia, zero problem. It's not an oil country and it's population are not being persecuted. They're doing fine.



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