Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

The Congo minister should not have been entertained publicly by the state. if he did want to communicate with irish government, the government should have keep his communication private. And no accepting him on an offical visit. Who next will they entertain and welcome in an offical capacity ? The Tailiban, Hamas ?

Grow a pair of balls up there in the Dáil.

Add that to the IMF recently, the Dutch MEP yesterday, the religious leader last week and others who lecture us. It’s time our politicians start putting Irish interests first and stop giving them airtime.

Do you genuinely believe that, or are you just parrotting lines you've been fed?

Sorry, did you not get the memo? That kind of obviously baited question can be seen a mile off and doesn't work.

It's odd how people try to frame Ireland's housing problem as a supply/demand problem that can only be addressed by reducing demand. Supply/demand problems can also be addressed by increasing supply, but that's an option that's almost never brought up. Yet it's the core fault at the heart of our housing problem, with successive governments over the decades abdicating responsibility to private rental and construction markets that have been failing to deliver. Almost as if there was another motive behind the desire to solely advocate reducing demand.

Increasing the supply will achieve nothing. We dont have the services which is the bigger issue. There needs to be mass deportations of those not working and a harder line on asylum applications.

And a zero tolerance approach with criminals.

The affordable housing schemes are over run by Indians in particular. Live here for 3 years and get a €120k-180k leg up onto the property ladder.

I've worked with Muslims. I have no problem with someone being a Muslim. The issue may be that many Muslim countries are being attacked by western countries and the people are traumatised in those countries.

For example, Somalia is often cited as a backward country here.

Somalia’s destabilization stems from a combination of European colonial partitioning, Cold War proxy maneuvering, and ill-fated Western military interventions

Maybe if we in the west weren't killing so many people in Muslim countries they wouldn't be so upset?

I don't think it matters where people come from, if they're Norwegian Danish or whatever people that hate Muslims like. We've reached capacity. Dublin is like a disease destroying nature. Build another city maybe in leitrim but the amount of building is crazy. When people are working in good jobs but can't afford housing, something is wrong and it's the fault of our government not the immigrants. They're invited in by Healy Rae etc looking to exploit immigrants so it's not them it's us and it's shocking no normal party is doing anything to reduce demand.

In a well-functioning country, the government can look at birth rates each year, estimate how many homes, schools, infrastructure projects, etc will be needed down the line, and plan accordingly.

However with current levels of immigration and an inability to keep up with demand, policy has become increasingly reactive rather than proactive. Anyone living in North Dublin in particular can see this firsthand. Apartments are being built everywhere. In my area alone, there have been numerous apartment developments, while very few houses have been built.

Developers know these apartments will be quickly occupied because there is a constant stream of young, transient workers and renters entering the country, and very few of these units are being made available for purchase. At the same time, local councils are competing with taxpayers in the housing market, bidding on properties that many families are trying to buy as their own homes.

This is a discussion for another thread, but I believe councils should move away from providing traditional houses with gardens as social housing. In many European countries, detached or semi-detached houses are primarily occupied by wealthier households. Apartments are considered a perfectly acceptable form of housing. If accommodation is being provided below market rates, apartments should be regarded as a suitable option, leaving family homes available to those paying full market value.

If you have a decent job, owning a home with a garden and somewhere to park your car shouldn’t feel like an impossible dream.

So yes, even if we eventually reach a point where housing demand can be met, the range of options available to people is being significantly diminished, and will affect the quality of life going forward.

Just seen a video of the Justice for Yves protest. Funny how a “major protest” needed Garda escorts, camera tricks from every angle to make the crowd look bigger, and you could say almost more media than protesters attending. The turnout spoke for itself.

Gofundme raised about 500 euro from 21 people. Pb4P dude attended, imagine he was elected last week in north inner city and was then attending the "protest" for a career criminal when the cause of death is not known.

All this is just a money grab..

"Maybe if we in the west weren't killing so many people in Muslim countries they wouldn't be so upset?"

Your're spot on. I will now down my standard army issue'd assault rifle & stop murdering poor people from other countries. Why didn't you say earlier? 🙄

Best comment of the day.

@engineerws you are pathetic. Who's murdering people in Somalia. More like the opposite Somalians are known as the pirates causing security issues. Give it over.