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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,286 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    last one ….and it was fairly hot ,testament to a lifetime of good breeding and management of his cows



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Kids were off school and brought them down to see the one that made 10k. They didnt see what all the fuss was about. Stick to the cross breds they said!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    Hard to argue with them. It's just lads losing the run of themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


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    Some lad on Facebook shared this pic of his manamore purchase. I don't see anything special about her. The same man seems to have a particular fondness for short paps. He's always sharing pics on Facebook. I presume he's selling every now and again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,286 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    bs …if you’ve an interest in breeding and top quality cows sales like that are of big interest and provide a great chance to buy into top cow families



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    Same Lads buying all the time. It's possible to breed them yourself. Alot of the results come from feeding and management.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    I don't mean to be putting down monamore of course. The best cows in the country. And lisduff in my opinion. It's a fast pass to improving your own herd. I just think, for me, I'll stick with trying to improve away my own through breeding my own for now at least. The first Ai man came here on a bike and that wasnt today or yesterday. There is alot of lies and BS at some sales. Considering classifying mine some time soon and entering the local herds competitions. EBI is gone to sh1t altogether.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,286 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    iv been buying Radney heifers last few years from odetas mostly ,they have records coming out there ears ,generations of very good milk combined with excellent % ..it rakes a long time to get heifers and milking stock on ground breeding from your own ,.just think it’s nice to bring in good genetics to compliment them ,feeding and management is imporfant but of breeding isn’t there the important link is missing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Your right. Im not a stock judge, far from it but i thought there was still a few narrow chested stock there that made handsome money. Now dont get me wrong there was outstanding stock with very good solids there aswell. The highest prices are a cow lovers cow. Not commercial stock. If that's what you're into iv no problem with that at all. I got permission from the dept to buy a couple, I bid on a couple but I was only annoying myself! Was talking to a farmer i know, he bought 3 calves as he said to support Tom. He was laughing saying he'll never see that money again but he loves his cows and didnt mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭visatorro


    My and the chief were in a man's yard buying cows years ago. Arguing over price, farmer said you know this is one of the best herds in the country, the chief just said sure Ringo wasn't the best drummer in the beatles!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭ftm2023


    Fully agree with you. Best of luck to a fella if he wants to pay €10,000 for a cow but it’s a funny way to try get rich. If a cow cost that money I’d give her a bedroom in my house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    That cow was for showing embryos bull sales u need not worry whoever bought that cow new what they were doing.I seen a cow at 6600 a red cow would win any show didnt seem dear to me if your into that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    Grass Quality is really sh1t this year. Between poaching, cold, stress, seed heads, I won't be hitting 4% protein anytime soon I'm afraid.

    I'm too lazy/busy for topping or taking out bales at 2 or 3 bales per acre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I have been looking at catalogs from AI companies for 40 years. By now the milk lorry man should be piking the milk out of the tank with the height of solids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Im not the best with grass, really struggled to get a couple of nice covers in a row into cows the last few weeks. There'll be a 4 in my protein but it will be the wrong side of the decimel point!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,286 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    finding opposite up to now …growth has been back and never really forgot far ahead or out of control …all my cow paddocks have seen a mower either topped or baled since end April ..to me that key for grass quality in June ….,don’t get the lads pulling the piss out of the neighbour baling paddocks at 2/3/4 bales per acre ….whilst they are grazing paddocks gone far too strong and then having to top off load of grass ….whilst there litres fall off and protein goes thru the floor

    Managing grass isn’t as easy as some think but you have to take action once you see grazing covers getting too strong and rotation length getting too long



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,361 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    When oh was in hospital last year tom Kelly's cattle were along the road on the journey in and out, something to take my mind off things. Sad to see none there now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    I barely got the fertiliser out on my silage ground by the end of April. Was still grazing the first rotation. Dry ground, low rainfall, higher stocking rate and buffer feeding makes managing grass easier.

    I'm not taking the piss out of any neighbour. I just busy/lazy for mowing or topping. Can't take out high ground here for bales so you end up trying to graze theough them and then the ones you want to grow can just stall at 3 or 4 weeks and start to regress. It's all easy on paper or in the Golden Vale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    It's a bit of a scam at this stage. Progress seems very slow even though management has generally improved beyond recognition. The fertility figure in EBI is a joke and can move a top bull way down the list or a mediocre bull to the top of the list.

    The health figure can be high but be negative for SCC and lameness.

    Used a good bit of DP bulls this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭green daries




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


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    Have 3 Dutch bulls in there too. Have nice calves off them this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,286 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    no offence …but u can do lots of you put your mind to it …used to be a poster here kev the gaff…farms other side of nenagh to me ,was up his way looking at a bull yesterday …his farm is on side of a mountain and he looked to be doing some job of it …another farmer milking well north of 200 cows on the hill as its known locally ,manages grass as well as anyone on flat land ,makes bales ,spreads slurry ,fertiliser etc grazes early/late …I’d say you’d plant it 😂😂…as I said managing grass isn’t easy ,no matter what sort land you farm ,if your not prepared to put in the effort /don’t want to it’s even harder



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,286 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Must be heart breaking for him now to be looking at an empty yard and fields ,….hos retirement fund and family will be well sorted tho ….bit still …whatever he and his family do next best of luck to them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Thesmallfarmer


    Heartbroken?

    Maybe Backbroken and after coming to his senses might be more realistic.

    I might be completely wrong but I dont think them pedigree breeders with all there extra hardship are any better off then any other farmer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,286 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    you don’t get it …lads like Tom put a lifetime of work into that farm and cows ,he had huge passion for what he did which was testament to his herd of cows and farm he built up ….the prices the herd achieved show the quality of ainmal he has bred over his farming career



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Dont know nothing about the man. I hope he getting out of cows with his own free will. Not because of health or family.

    It's a smart man/woman who knows when to retire. I might write a book sometime on fellas who could not stop and it ultimately ends in disaster.

    Old lads getting killed off tractors, quads cattle. The fences get poorer and poorer till the cattle spend longer in the neighbours than their own fields. Sheds falling in.

    I knew a lad once and the COOP were telling him to retire, he didn't pass tests on years. But instead of fixing the problem he would keep the lorry driver talking and get the wife to switch samples in the lorry.

    Another rang me one day wondering would it be OK to let take the board bia lad to walk around my yard instead of his own.

    And at the end of the day, Cows are cows, one bad TB test and they are gone, if you died this morning, they would be milked again this evening



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Grass has just come right here but was feeding silage up to a week ago or so. In this purple patch having the place skinned has worked out grand.silage changed dramatically in a week ,cut the zero grazed and grazed stuff Wednesday on it was gone heavy and a bit of stem but there was nothing in it a week before that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    Unreal, changed literally overnight when the heat came. Alot of stem and seed though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Out of interest, where are ye getting your milking detergent. I was going to get a barrel and a barrel of deosan teat foam.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭straight


    https://www.arkfarminnovations.com/

    I get everything off Ark. It's hard to understand the wexicans alright but find them good products overall.



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