Israel/Palestine Thread

You might recall the three Israeli hostages killed by the IDF. I recall a poster here getting rather upset that I used the word "executed". Seems the word "executed" is actually closer to the truth than "killed". One of them ran off, was pursued, was called out of hiding, then shot dead. By his own people.

Seems there's a lot of evidence of people (mostly Palestinians of course) being shot even as they carry white flags. So much so, this report states "Israeli soldiers routinely shoot innocent people".

For long time posters/readers here, that will come as no surprise. But the report below goes into detail about many other instances.

Its a long article. If you do nothing else, read the last three paras - a remarkable commentary on the state of Israel and where it is headed. Nowhere good.

Two weeks ago, an investigative program on Israel’s Channel 13 aired a 60-minute report on the December 2023 killing of three Israeli hostages — Yotam Haim, Alon Shamriz, and Samer Al-Talalka — who were shot by Israeli soldiers in Shuja’iya, eastern Gaza City, after emerging from a hiding place carrying a white flag.

Even without intimate knowledge of the details, one thing should have been clear from the outset: When soldiers fire from inside buildings at three shirtless men carrying a white flag, kill two of them, then pursue the third, call him out of hiding, and shoot him dead, the issue is not merely “mistaken identity.” The issue is that Israeli soldiers routinely shoot innocent people.

One would have to be extraordinarily naïve to believe that the single time this happened, the victims just happened to be Israelis.

https://www.972mag.com/israel-investigative-journalism-drucker-dayan-hostages/

More accusations of Israeli sexual violence.

Haaretz straplines:
On Friday, French FM Jean-Noel Barrot said that Paris ⁠has asked its public prosecutor to ‌investigate the treatment of French nationals ⁠who took part in a recent activist flotilla heading for Gaza, adding that France's Consul General in Turkey informed him of accounts of "sexual violence, exposure to the cold, beatings and repeated humiliation of French nationals."

The ⁠activists' legal team said that they would file a ‌separate complaint over the violence their clients were subjected to, including humiliation, rape and acts of torture. The activists themselves declined an ⁠invitation from Barrot's cabinet to discuss the matter, saying in a statement that "the buzz from the minister's declarations will not make us forget that the ‌French government has supported the state of Israel since the beginning of the genocide."

Absolutely - Hamas and Hezbollah need to go. But this isn't a one-sided conflict.

IDF stated Hamas were defeated in 2024 yet have continued to bomb, starve, snipe, bulldoze and murder.

Until the IDF are reined in and Israel forced to implement fully the ceasefires they agreed to, Hamas and Hezbollah will continue to fight. And more Palestinians will be radicalised enough to join them after just burying their entire family.

Of course, it's still a one-sided conflict. Toyota landcruisers, rockets made of wavin pipes and duck-tape are not a match for f35s, f16s, Merkava battle tanks and Apache attack helicopters or 2000lb bombs, phosphorous and chemical weapons.

But sure, let the terrorists have at it - just leave the civilians out of it.

More detail on Israel being added to the UN Blacklist for those perpetrating "sexual violence in war zones".

Just when you thought the depths of depravity couldn't go any lower after those 5 soldiers sodomised that prisoner and they weren't prosecuted because they were "heroes".

World pariah.

Which city out of interest?

And what is it you're sick of? The graffiti?