Israel/Palestine Thread

Thanks v much for the explanation @dmcdona. Your post actually twigged something with me. I put "abhorrent tribe" into the search bar. I did see that post but had forgotten, because if was months ago

So @sheepysheep, I found a problem with that post the exact same way I find a problem with yours and I reacted in the same way.

Both that post and yours hive mind and collectively blame Jews of all opinions and persuasions for the Israeli states crimes that they have no culpability in, collapse them all as one.

That one (imo) to denigrate them all, your ones uses their already vulnerable communities as shields to prevent accountability to evil f*ckers committing the most brutal warcrimes I have ever seen being done in my lifetime, and their supporters, to let them get away with it.

The motivations may be different, but the affect is the same - hurting Jews whether they agree with this or not because [insert reasons].

You are no different, and no, your clear apathy towards innocent Gazan men women and children being slaughtered in the tens of thousands doesn't offset your evident antisemetism, its just another string in the same bow.

It is also curious. You have accused us all of antisemetism dozens and dozens of times. Along with almost all the experts who have declared genocide. And just like you haven't provided a single shred of proof for your accusations with them, the only post you can find for your slander of me is from 5 months ago, that I didn't make, and in fact challenged?

That shows your only problem with most of us here is that we are speaking up about Israeli crimes because we believe what the experts are telling us is happening, because why on earth wouldnt we? You really need to look in the mirror, and at what you are advocating for, and the damage posting the way you are is doing.

Starry: Your direct posts related to "feigned" ignorance of the facts that have been documented by organisations like Human Rights Watch, and later B’tselem and others on genocidal intent by Israel, might have unwittingly made Walsh “indict” himself !! Walsh appears to know all of the Hasbara propaganda to excuse genocide.

*There is overwhelming evidence they are targeting children.

*The systematic flattening of infrastructure creates conditions that make life impossible to sustain.

*Gaza City is decimated (90 percent), a landscape of rubble with unexploded ordnance left behind.

*They haven’t distinguished between Hamas and civilians (it’s been called a collective punishment).

*IDF have dug their own graves with videos, and Cabinet Ministers’ self incrimination (this is where the paper trail leads to regarding genocidal language, E.G., former defence minister Israel Kantz and the like).

Multiple thousands of displaced Palestinian families live in makeshift tents around destroyed infrastructure, the complete collapse of sewage system. 5 of Gaza's wastewater treatment plants and almost all of its sewage pumping stations are destroyed or lack fuel. This sewage flows down the streets and sinks into the earth, poisoning the buried layer of sand and rock that provides all of Gaza’s fresh water. Children have no alternative but to walk through this and play there.

Disease is spreading, anaesthetics have been withheld for children’s surgical amputations, and antibiotics for infections; milk powder for babies; menstrual pads for women and girls (human dignity) leading to reproductive and UTI infections… The latter alone would cause deep emotional stress - how can they wash themselves in private when there is severe overcrowding. For civilians, Gaza is a daily battle, and I say it was planned. Indirect deaths long after that might not be recorded. The list is endless.

I think this is beyond general intent in late November 2024, and before it escalated to even greater heights of barbarity:

HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH (HRW)

“Hopeless, Starving, and Besieged” / Israel’s Forced Displacement of Palestinians in Gaza (176pp)
November 14, 2024
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/media_2024/11/gaza_displacement1124web.pdf

A recommended short read: - HRW 'Israel and Palestine' ⬇️
'Events of 2025'
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2026/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine

"In 2025, Israeli forces escalated their atrocities, including war crimes, crimes against humanity and acts of genocide, and ethnic cleansing against Palestinians in Gaza, killing, maiming, starving and forcibly displacing Palestinians and destroying their homes, schools, and infrastructure at a scale unprecedented in the recent history of Israel and Palestine. A_  report _issued in September by the UN Commission of Inquiry finding that Israel committed genocide in Gaza underscored the growing consensus among human rights organizations and experts around the atrocities in Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza that resulted in the killing of more than 69,000 Palestinians, including more than 19,000 children, and injuring of more than 170,000, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry."

I despise any form of prejudice and bigotry. To be honest, in my travels, I have realised that most people are more alike than they are different. I will condemn anybody for inciting hatred against a particular group of people.

Do you know what I also hate? Humans killing other humans? I hate human-beings starving to death when this world has enough food for everybody. I hate people dying of infection because of no access to healthcare, when we have had antibiotics since the 1920s. I hate when humans have lifelong cognitive impairments and congenital defects because they did not get the nutrients that they needed in the womb. I hate when kids are denied education or security of a home.

The vast majority of posters are disgusted by anti-semitism and post in good faith. If this was the other way around and the Palestinians were doing to the Israelis what is happening in Gaza, the condemnation would be equally strong because we recognise the humanity in our fellow man who is suffering. I don’t care who is doing what or why it is happening. I just see outrageous suffering in Gaza and I want it to stop.

Is there much evidence that the Palestinians want to 'wipe out' the people of Israel? This is used by the Israelis (and their legions of supporters) to justify every atrocity going and even genocide against the Palestinians and Lebanon but very few Israeli civilians have been killed in the last 20-30 years - it's estimated that perhaps around 1000 Israeli civilians may have died in the last two decades and that includes the October 7th attacks.

You have articulated I think how the majority on this thread feel in this post.

It's the hypocrisy of the posters shouting "antisemitic" consistently at all those who ciritcise the Israeli government and IDF in anyway that is infuriating, tiring and just pure lazy at this point.

It's often these posters that collectively associate/hive mind all Jewish people and don't even acknowledge their hypocrisy.

You seem to have set an impossibly high bar for acknowledging a genocide in Palestine and at the same time seem to be very comfortable making the sweeping generalisation that Palestinians would do to Israel what Israel has done to them (genocide).

How can you make such a sweeping statement without any real evidence, while at the same time managing to ignore the overwhelming evidence of the genocide Israel is committing?

Surely, if you were consistent in your standards, the Palestinians would need to commit genocide against the Israelis and you would have to wait for a unanimous consensus that a genocide is taking place against the Israelis before making a statement like this?