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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Enter Username Here


    Thanks, I didn't even look at eir, as I have had an absolute horrible time with them in the past, and they were 100% at fault, comreg got involved. I couldn't bring myself to look at them again even with that offer. Are GoMo the same company?

    Three years later, and Eir still send out a monthly bill to us.

    I tried Sky BB again, and managed to get another agent, who sent out a new router and signed us up to the Sky offer (as e had cancelled about a month ago). It is due to go active today, but I haven't swapped out the old router for the new one. They want the old equipment back, so I was planning on just sending them the new one. Or might that raise a few alarm bells in case they don't allow it? (The resigning up with BB before 12 months gap).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yes GoMo is owned by the eircom family. I'm not sure about sending the new router back instead of the old one, It should still work alright. You could change the WiFi name (SSID) & password to match the existing router in the router's web interface instead, so existing devices should just reconnect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭pizzahead77


    With Pure if you are on the Eir backhaul network you can use DHCP rather than PPPoE for the connection. I think its only the BT backhaul that needs the PPPoE connection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yep if Pure choose the eir core network for you, you can choose to use IPoE/DHCP instead. If BT Ireland is chosen, it's PPPoE only afaik. VLAN ID 10 needed in all cases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I'm currently on Digiweb 100Mbps ADSL which includes a phone line… price is going up to €42.95 / month.. possibly higher as they said they are going to add another €5 on top though I'm not clear if that will also be for my plan.

    100Mbps is plenty fine for me, I'm not bothered about fibre speeds and my streaming is fine. Also I'm not too bothered about losing the phone line. I only really ever make a landline call once every 4 months when calling companies that put me on hold for hours.

    I see that 3Broadband 5G Gold is €25 per month (I am with Three already for mobile)… are those wireless setups any good (I'm Dublin-based) ?

    Upload speed is 15Mbps vs the 20Mbps of Digiweb, but 150 Mbps for 3 vs the 100 Mbps I have with Digiweb



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    VDSL/FTTC should still be more consistent, lower latency and have less jitter compared to mobile broadband.

    You mightn't be guaranteed to get 150Mb/s all of the time with mobile internet, it's just a case of trying it out as there's many different factors.

    There's a €3 price increase every April with Three mobile broadband also.

    You could get your own 4G/5G router from CeX, Amazon etc. and a SIM from Clear Mobile (Vodafone) for €12.99pm or GoMo (eir) for €14.99pm. Three, eir and Vodafone prepay SIM plans would be €20 per 28 days. All those would include 5G.

    If the Three mobile broadband included a technical visit to install an outdoor antenna, then that might be easier for you to get better results.

    But by getting your own router, you could try all three networks to see which is best in your particular location.

    You can check these websites to see if you're included in any of the networks FTTP roll outs.

    You'll be able to get better deals with FTTP. GoMo 500Mb through open eir FTTP is €29.99pm for life. Sky 500Mb is €27.99pm for 12m.

    https://www.comreg.ie/broadbandchecker

    https://nbi.ie/map/

    https://siro.ie/broadband-for-home/

    https://www.openeir.ie/fibre/broadband-checker

    https://www.gov.ie/en/department-of-culture-communications-and-sport/publications/national-broadband-plan-map/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I have the Virgin Fibre cable outside the house, but dont want the hassle of getting a new hole drilled in my wall to bring it through.

    I dont have Siro available.

    So the only options im interested in are to use my existing phone line, or go with mobile.

    When searching for options to use the phone line that's now called "Part fibre" is it? Rather than ADSL?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yeah it's VDSL/FTTC/Part fibre, fibre to the cabinet in your area and then over the phone line to your house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Who has good deals with VDSL?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Akula


    so who is the gold standard these days? Leave price aside. I’ll be going for 2-5gb of speed and using my own router (probably about to upgrade to unifi kit).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    They're not really advertised much. Nearly all providers would offer service through it, except Virgin. You'd just have to go on each of their websites and enter your eircode. Or try Switcher & Bonkers.

    If it's Virgin FTTP available to you, you'll see full fibre options on Virgin, Sky, Vodafone and Digiweb's websites. If it's Virgin coax, it's just Virgin.

    Virgin FTTP will be listed on the ComReg website as Virgin Media / Fibre / 5,000Mb/s. Virgin coax will be listed as Virgin Media / Cable / 1,000Mb/s.

    https://www.comreg.ie/broadbandchecker/

    https://switcher.ie/broadband/

    https://www.bonkers.ie/compare-tv-broadband-phone/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    The FTTP ISPs would be similar but all have their own core networks with slightly different latcency/peering/routing. SIRO, NBI, open eir, Virgin FTTP etc. hand over your connection to the retail provider's core network.

    The main providers offering 2Gb or more are Vodafone, Digiweb, Virgin, eir, Sky, Blacknight.

    Sky are the only provider offering 5Gb through SIRO at the moment afaik.

    Virgin's provided router is WiFi 6. Digiweb's router is WiFi 7 without 6GHz. Sky, Vodafone and eir's router is WiFi 7 with 6GHz.

    You can't get eir through SIRO. You can't get Virgin through open eir. You can only switch between Virgin, Sky, Vodafone and Digiweb through Virgin's own FTTP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Akula


    I’ll def be using my own router so don’t care what they provide. It looks like Virgin don’t give you an external ont so that rules them out.

    Eir on openeir feels like best right now. DHCP. Can use my own router. Ok price on 5gb assuming I can get a new customer price or close to it when I renew.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    eir is not great when it comes to renewing in my experience and there is the €4 price increase every April but the actual broadband service was good for me when I did have it. You'd probably have to put in your cancellation notice to get a better deal.

    Virgin through NBI or SIRO does come with an external ONT, that you can connect your own router to. It's only Virgin through their own Virgin FTTP that comes without the external ONT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    The April price increases you mention, is that €3/€4 extra per month or per annum?

    What's happening in April that requires prices go up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yeah the price increases by €4 per month each April with eir, so 5Gb would be €49.99pm until April 2027 when it would be increased to €53.99pm and then €57.99pm from April 2028.

    eir, Three and Vodafone all have fixed price increases included in their contracts that happen in April each year. They say it's necessary because of inflation/investment in their networks.

    There's law that will allow you to leave a contract when the price increases even if a fixed price increase was mentioned at the outset, but it isn't in yet. Hopefully when it is introduced, they'll move away from the fixed price increases every year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    So I've narrowed down the part-fibre offers to Eir or Pure .. Eir I can get for €319 for first 12 months, and Pure will be €360.

    Also Eir include free national calls, whereas I don't think Pure do

    So I assume I switch to Eir unless Digiweb get back to me on Tuesday to match the offer which I doubt they will be able to.

    Now the big question, how quickly will the switch be made? My Digiweb contract ends on 6th (after which I'll be charged a huge monthly rate to keep Digiweb for the extra month)… so if I sign up to Eir on 2nd will I likely be up and running by the 6th or will the only internet in my house be my mobile for a few days?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    I'm presuming it's the same process as FTTP, provide the new provider your UAN, it should be listed on your current bill, and specify the date you want the switchover to happen. Make sure it's for after the contract end date, or you could face early cease charges. They'll send you out the router for you to install on the day of the switchover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I'll ring them up in the morning just to be 100% sure that there aren't any cancellation fees involved if I change my account to a different company after the 12 month discount period.

    I'm assuming it's similar to the energy supplier setup where you can change each year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    No yeah it sounds like your in a 12 month contract, I just mean make sure the switchover date is after the end date of the contract, the 7th it should be for you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I mean Eir and Pure, want to ensure that signing up to them for 12 months doesn't incur a fee if I drop them after 12 months...yeah Digiweb are good about contract changes. They've always given me the "new user" price each year for last 10 years, but unfortunately even the new user price is higher now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    No it won't incur a fee if outside the minimum term. Eir do offer 24 month contracts though along with 12 month, on their FTTP anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    It should be possible to use my existing router right? Digiweb aren't asking for it back and it's a good make with great security.

    I checked the setup on my existing router and seems the only Digiweb-related entry is a username and password in the "Account information" section, which I'm assuming was entered before I got the device as I don't recognise the username.

    I assume I'll get that new username and password for the router from the new provider?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    I'm not fully sure with VDSL, but I presume so yes. As you've said, you're usually able to change the username and password with 3rd party routers supplied by Digiweb, Pure Telecom etc.

    The username and password I presume will be the exact same or similar to the FTTP details. With FTTP anyway, it doesn't seem to matter what's entered for the username and password, it will work.



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