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Dublin - Metrolink (Swords to Charlemont only)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Hard to believe its the most centrally located rail station in one of the wealthiest cities in europe.

    It looks like an abandoned provincial town station in a poor part of the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭spillit67


    Wasn’t Tara not actually decided upon as a station for Metro when Ronan got his hands on it?

    The air rights should pay for the station. But nobody ever asks where the CIÉ property money really goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    CIÉ Group repeatedly bails out the continual deficits at the operational companies.

    Some of that is actually money charged to the operational companies as CIÉ Group provide IT, legal and property services for them. The rest of it is profits from group activities and, most years, CIÉ Tours plus the occasional years some of the three transport firms make a profit.

    That's where the property income is going. It's also how loads of transport firms work - JR in Japan is a huge example of that, major retail operator; and Adif in Spain (the public track/station operator) is the same. Huge shopping centre at the Vigo high-speed station built in the last few years, owned by Adif.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭spillit67


    They recharge the operating companies for those costs so that money is a bit pass the parcel.

    Overall these are capital gains and should not be used to fund pension liabilities and operating deficits. It’s a national disgrace.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tender out for the MetroLink M700 Supply Chain Opportunity Portal (SCOT)

    The SCOT will comprise an online portal to publicise procurement opportunities to the potential MetroLink supply chain including to Small and Medium-sized Enterprises (SMEs).

    https://www.etenders.gov.ie/epps/cft/prepareViewCfTWS.do?resourceId=7983194

    » Not the most exciting news but just to show you the nuts and bolts are continuing behind the scenes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,301 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    We'll be a complete laughing stock if it's canned after issuing all these tenders so hopefully it's really going to happen this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Id protest Leinster house if they start talking about it being canned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭zanardi


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    I wouldn't bet against it judging by Una Mullally in the IT last Monday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭ArcadiaJunction


    hmmm. This is something to be concerned about. The low level political vermin generally leak out what the high level political vermin are saying behind closed doors,



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I’m not so sure, there’s been a well reported case of a Fianna Fáil canvasser offering views that diverge from Fianna Fáil policy in that constituency



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,287 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    The fact that even the IT are calling it a clanger show that they know how the public feel about this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Some FF canvasser making up stuff to deflect blame for the housing crisis is all that is, money is not the issue for the housing crisis



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    TII have commenced procurement on the M120 Heavy Civils Enabling Works Framework Agreement. This is being procured to enable the delivery of specific heavy civils elements for MetroLink before the main heavy civils works commence under M400. The total estimated value of this is €1.2bn

    This is broken into two lots:

    Lot 1: Major civil elements over €50m (may include station boxes, tunnel portals, single or multi span viaducts).

    Lot 2: Minor civil elements less than €50m (may include retaining walls, other foundation/support works).

    The M120 Framework may also be used by Iarnród Eireann-Irish Rail to procure call-off contracts for heavy civil engineering works at or adjacent to Glasnevin station that fall within the scope of works for the M120 Framework.

    https://www.etenders.gov.ie/epps/cft/prepareViewCfTWS.do?resourceId=7504852

    https://www.metrolink.ie/media/xx4pdpcq/metrolink-m100-faqs-march-2026.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭JohnC.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,361 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The worst video they've ever done. Over half of it is Irish memes and they didn't do their homework on the actual project.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,287 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Actually made me rethink some of their other stuff too. If they’re this sloppy on one video, they’re likely to be sloppy elsewhere too



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Some further detail on this from TII:

    https://www.tii.ie/en/news/press-releases/metrolink-partners-with-daa-and-transport-agencies-to-deliver-key-airport-works/



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    My kid has proudly shown me a “Metro station“ that he built out of Lego.

    We live in Dublin. I think this is finally going to happen.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    TII have commenced procurement for the M160 Environmental Monitoring Contract

    144 month contract with an estimated value of €26m

    More details:

    https://www.etenders.gov.ie/epps/cft/prepareViewCfTWS.do?resourceId=7871302



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭spillit67


    Some real pace with these tenders in the last few weeks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭spillit67


    That’s unfortunately the nature of the beast with generalist content creators. I found that myself when Michael Lewis looked at Ireland post crash for an article.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    My number one reason for giving up on 'factual' youtube channels has been when they do a video I happen to know more about than they/their writers do. I imagine that's quite common!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Thunder87


    RMTransit's video on Dublin was pretty good I thought, I think there was one or two inaccuracies in there but overall it came across as well researched. Though in general I'd agree, and not just youtubers but even mainstream journalists I treat the same way, we see it all the time even with infrastructure related news where the reporting is regularly just lazy and sloppy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭spillit67


    Mainstream journalists are worse. There is a real laziness within the profession, it’s an entire industry warped firstly by the Jeremy Paxman approach and then social media.

    What is mad imo is that a journalist who really got stuck into MetroLink and every element of it would quickly become an in demand talking head. Olivia Kelly made a good fist of it with her coverage of the planning hearings but more is needed.

    Similarly with the Children’s Hospital, it’s just sensationalism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    No, the Children’s Hospital is a scandal, and deserves the negative attention that the project management, and HSE, has received. I will accept that now, after the project has been dragged more or less back on track, the press do unnecessarily jump on any small delay as if it’s another massive scandal, but overall the delivery of CHI has been accompanied by a large waste of government funds.

    I don’t oppose CHI, I think it’s the right project, and I believe it’s in the right place. The massive cost overruns are purely a failure of the HSE and the delivery organisation to manage the contracts. This is especially maddening when there are state agencies like TII that have longstanding expertise in making sure contractors don’t go wild during the delivery of projects of the same cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭spillit67


    I’m not saying it isn’t a scandal.

    What I am saying is that most journalists do not care for the intricacies of the project. They are lazy and don’t actually hit on the reasons why it went over.

    And btw, the primary blame lies with the Department of Health, not the HSE (to my point….).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    That’s pointless hair-splitting. We are in agreement that the project was grossly mismanaged by the “client”, whether it be HSE, CHI or their parent the Dept of Health. BAM are painted as the villain in this, but honestly, I’ve a lot of sympathy with them, having worked for clients who didn’t know what they wanted, but weren’t prepared to put in the effort to find that out before they started demanding deliverables.

    The argument about the intricacies of the project was lost once the costs spiralled out of control. I know better than many what it costs, and how long it takes, to build and fit out a new hospital (a former job used to provide IT equipment and systems to hospitals across Europe). I do expect some kind of “post-mortem” (unfortunate phrase given the nature of the building) investigation by the more reputable parts of the media, and in that there will be more depth.

    I also agree with you that today, the press are lazy and wrong to treat any short commissioning delay as another disaster. Commissioning a hospital is an extremely complex process, and the consequences of not doing it completely right are horrifying, so they should take as long as is needed. However, it should never have cost so much time and money to get to the normal, excusable delays we have now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭spillit67


    I honestly don’t care about another discussion on the it, I’ve been there. Don’t need anything from you in that regard, I’m sure it’s insightful, but thanks I’m grand. I never made any comment on it not being a scandal.

    My point is on the lazy nature of Irish journalists. There is absolutely a million things to lambaste it on, but they miss it. There is more depth in covering sports and sports tactics these days than matters of policy or big ticket projects.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,287 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    To be fair, you wouldn’t want sports commentators commenting on infrastructure either



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    TII have commenced procurement on the M190 Specialist Heritage Contract

    TII are seeking to appoint a Contractor to deliver the effective removal and management of heritage constraints that must be safeguarded in situ or removed and securely stored and subsequently reinstated during the later stages of the programme.

    12 years in parallel with the M400/M500 contracts

    https://www.etenders.gov.ie/epps/cft/prepareViewCfTWS.do?resourceId=7904638



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