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Are fuel prices pushing you towards an EV?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    There are hundreds of fast chargers in construction at the moment, Tesla alone has Donegal, Sligo, Mallow, Limerick, Longford and Beehive M11 finished/nearly finished in last few weeks.

    Irish EV owners have an up to date tracker below for updates

    https://www.irishevassociation.ie/infrastructure-updates



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,495 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    and service station had no fuel this week or last week.

    cost of ownership was always easy. To look at. Prices drops didn’t change that


    I went from Dublin to Malin head on Friday and back on Saturday.

    No issue with charging. Plenty of spare ones when I charged



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,789 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    You can't remember where you were? That's a reassuring level of confidence you're giving us in your story right there.

    There are so many charging stations nowadays with multiple chargers each that your story never really happens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    i purchased a 4 year old ioniq 5 a month ago, not becuase of the iran war but because i had always intended making the switch in the spring.

    i was spending €500/month on petrol, that's down to €180 now. With the rising price of petrol the same volume of petrol in litres today would have cost me €550.

    the car only needs a service every 30k kilometres versus 15k with the Ateca, tax is €120 versus €200.

    in addition its a lovely car to drive. i love ipedal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Absolutely. The attraction of electric driving goes far beyond mere savings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,533 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    if you were in a position to be charging at home on a decent night rate, that €180 would be far less.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    driving a diesel, tax is high, very comfortable on long journeys, fuel cost high, last fill up of cost 232.9 c / L. No the high price of fuel would not make me think of switching to an EV, as currently there is no EV that has the capabilities of my current car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,789 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    currently there is no EV that has the capabilities of my current car

    Do please tell us what an EV can't do that your current car can do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    What are the capabilities of your current car that you think are missing from a EV?

    I only ask because I bought a Tesla M3 Highland two years ago having been in several BMW diesels, Golf GTIs before that and I'll never go back to a petrol or diesel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,789 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I'd say he already is, €550 a month on petrol at €1.90 is 290L which at a 3:1 ratio is the equivalent of 870kWh/month - meaning at €180 he's paying about 20c/kWh.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,854 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I wouldn't necessarily say it's just the fuel prices as I'd been considering it anyway, but it's definitely making it a more attractive option.

    Depending on how fuel prices continue to go, I'll likely be waiting until 2028 before pulling the trigger, but if fuel prices get a lot worse I'll maybe take out a loan and go a year earlier.

    I'd also want to do a bit more research into the 'stated range' to 'actual likely range' ratio, as I'm guessing the stated range tends to be calculated under optimal conditions, using as few of the extras/features as possible, staying at certain speeds etc, whereas the actual range you'd get for driving it like a petrol/diesel is probably a certain percentage less. I rarely do huge mileage in any one go so it would rarely be an issue, but I'd need to be more educated on that before proceeding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,636 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Phev's are a waste of time. Expensive compated to similar petrol or EV's second hand and higher service and maintenance costs than both

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭September1


    It is difficult to predict but unlike 2022 this time there is no massive spike in money to paid to electricity generators, as Ireland is moving towards more renewable energy. If many people would switch to EVs it could lower prices in long run due to EVs being able to use electricity during lower demand times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,636 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Heading for my mid 60's spiuse is just 60. We changed the better halfs to an EV a few weeks ago. Doubt if we will be going back. Never considered phev, I never saw the advantage of it. No solar charger installed 515km rated range suspect its about 400+/- 20-30km depending on weather, night etc.

    Sole trader so structure of EV depreciation helped make the devision. Its costs approx 5 euro from mid 20s% to high 70's% capacity ( about a 6 hour charge about 250km range according to my calculation.

    The biggest change in thinking is previously we used fill the car completely and drive until empty. Car will be doing 17-18k in kilometers a year. Looking ar EVs a substantial amount sitting in forecourts, its a good time to jump. Ignore listed price and bid a bit lower. esoecially if buying straight

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Towing Capacity up to 3.5T, high ground clearance, 700mm wading depth and low ratio gearbox with diff locks for off road driving. the ability to carry extra fuel for driving in remote areas.

    do please tell us what EV could match these features?



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Towing Capacity up to 3.5T, high ground clearance, 700mm wading depth and low ratio gearbox with diff locks for off road driving. the ability to carry extra fuel for driving in remote areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭evftw


    Depending on the portion of towing and wading vs. say town and motorway work, probably worth considering an EV as the second car.

    But there are always edge cases where an EV just won't do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,054 ✭✭✭✭josip




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Gadge


    My daily commute is 152Km and it's costing me over e500 per month on diesel alone. We got a decent solar & battery setup recently so I can take advantage of the good night rates plus I work shift so can charge the car with any excess solar generation above 5Kw during the day, putting all that together and an EV makes sense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    What country is this for? Are there remote areas in Ireland that would require you to carry extra fuel?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    Shocked picachu faces all around when electricity prices keep rising due to green subsidies and carbon taxes and reliance on imported gas and night rate goes away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    How much did the battery / solar setup cost you in total?

    I don't have off-street parking but I have been telling my brother this one is a no-brainer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Gadge


    21 panel, 9.6KWh Sigen system with 2x10KWh batteries plus auto changeover switch. Approx €15k. Even without the panels, a family could save a fortune just by filling up batteries at the night time rate and working off those for the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,278 ✭✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    That's fair enough. i have a work colleague who pulls a horsebox and would love an EV but can't due to the points that you've raised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    We have solar but actually make more by selling back to the grid in the brighter months and charging the cars, using the washing machine etc from 2am to 5am on the cheap rate.

    Our nightime rate is 9c per kw so I'm "filling" the Tesla for less than 6euro.

    I drive 20k kms per year and have probably used public charging about three times per year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    For sure it will.

    But on the other hand, the kw/h price would want to be heading past Eur1.20 to make it more expensive to fuel that sruthair's Massey Ferguson, maybe even higher if you benchmark against vegetable oil.

    That's not going to happen anytime soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    I'm doing 1000km per week. The short EV windows on offer from energia and pinergy are not sufficient for my needs. Three nights a week I need 7 hours of night rate charging + a couple of hours day rate. The car leaves the driveway at 5:45am.

    Back in late February Energypal suggested Electric Ireland had the best tariff which I jumped on. 13.81 cents night rate (8.11 cents 2-4am). No matter which way I diced it the Electric Ireland tariff was the best option at the time.

    I estimate €180 to be at the upper end of the scale. I've only the car a month but the first few weeks are close to what I had forecasted.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    I remember when our system pushed everyone towards diesel “because it’s cleaner”

    That turned out to be a load of manure as we found out

    No lessons have been learned from that episode, imho going against the flow of sheep and their “common sense” like for example not buying houses during a bubble twenty years back, or buying eircom shares before that is a great position to take in this country



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