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Are fuel prices pushing you towards an EV?

  • 13-04-2026 10:37AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭


    I've been driving an EV for five years now and recommending friends to make the switch. Many are sceptical and tend towards plug in hyrbrids rather than full electric cars but with the current fuel prices and protests, I wonder if any ICE drivers are starting to consider making the switch to a fully electric car?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I would if I could afford a 7 seat EV that gave decent range.

    But the lowest price I am seeing on DD for any 7 seat EV is €25k + so I just can't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭k123456


    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/12/interest-evs-surge-europe-fuel-prices-iran-war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,817 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Trump's shenanigans and the weaponising of energy prices by Iran should probably wake people up to the fact that we need to be thinking about alternatives to fossil fuels asap, regardless of environmental concerns or the fact there is a finite supply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    And if we all jump to EVs at once how do we make sure we have enough energy to charge them.

    I know people will say solar and wind, but that takes a long time to build.

    We will be a long time relying on ICE vehicles yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭pjdarcy


    Everyone switching over to EVs at the same time is just not going to happen. If the current situation made 5 or even 10% of ICE drivers make the change to an EV I would deem that a major success.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,817 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    We're not all going to jump into EVs immediately, they're not suitable for anyone without their own driveway in their current guise anyway. I'm just saying that this war should highlight to people that there is going to be a benefit in moving away from oil other than the environment.

    If you've ever looked at an EV and thought nah my diesel can do 1000km on a tank and can be refueled in 3 minutes, why would I ever want an EV? Well maybe understand that it is going to be a trade-off, I don't see EVs ever being as convenient as ICE vehicles but there are other benefits to them. I suspect this trade-off is going to be tipped more towards the EV over the coming years, the government stepping in with a rescue package every time the price of oil shoots up isn't sustainable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    ?

    EVs are already more convenient than ICE vehicles.

    Fueling on your literal doorstep and also available publicly 24/7 unlike petrol stations which are operationally restricted and in decline nationally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,278 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    EV's might be more convenient for someone who lives nowhere near a petrol station and never drives outside the range of their EV but realistically for anyone who does semi-regular long spins or lives near multiple petrol stations an ICE car is always going to be more convenient. And that's coming from someone who has driven both for multiple years now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    The petrol station that closes at 9pm, just when you need it? Or is there one year, but apartments the next?

    Given a decent battery pack, how does one drive outside the range of their EV without having a refueling option on this small island? It's not like we're living in the Leaf/Zoe era anymore. Maybe it's this unicorn trip to the Inishowen peninsula coming back into view again 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    I've a genuine question and maybe here is as good a place as any to ask it.

    When I've looked up charging times for an EV, I've found that it generally says things like "when using Level 3 chargers, 10% to 80% charge time can typically occur in 25 to 30 minutes".

    i.e. it always seems to give charging time only to 80% charge. Not 100%.

    Why is this? Does charging time slow down significantly after that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,278 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    I never said they wouldn't have a refuelling option. But refuelling an EV on a long drive is more time consuming and more expensive than refuelling an ICE car. I mean how can you even argue against that?

    And I've never once been stuck for petrol in my life, yet I've been stuck for a charge multiple times, and so have lots of others on here, with broken chargers and inaccurate range displays etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I think for battery life you are only supposed to charge to 80%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,278 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Yes, even phone manufacturers quote 10% to 80% charging speeds now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    Don't use my car enough to be hoonest, live a 15 minute life for the most part so cycle, walk and scoot mainly.

    But, why haven't the government invested in the infrastructure? I don't have off-street parking so its a long way off.

    We need super-fast charging points, and loads of them, for this to become a viable alternative for many people. I don't get why the government haven't invested massively in this to wean the country off fossil fuels.

    If I needed my car for commuting, I'd 100% be getting one.

    I love the theory behind it, and the environmental impact obviously, but just don't see the financial justification at the moment given I don't use my car enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,980 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Doing approx 30k kms per year - recently purchased an EV. I NEEDED a new or newer car (vs wanted) as my old car had its day.

    So I would have required a new car loan either way- either for an ICE or an EV-so taking that into account, I’m saving at least 3000 euro a year on fuel, less servicing and less motor tax. It’s essentially part funding the upgrade of my car.

    Anyone doing significant annual milage and is in similar situation to above should seriously consider an EV. Leaving aside 7 seaters which are in fairness a niche market, there’s any number of family orientated EVs out there to suit most driving habits and requirements and budgets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭pjdarcy


    Yes. The simplest analogy for charging is that it's like trying to find parking in a multi story parking spot. When the car park is only 10% full, it's extremely easy to find a spot. When the car park is 80% full or more, it takes longer to find a parking spot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭almostover


    Yes, in the case where someone needs a new car it's making less and less sense to go ICE. Once my own car is past it I'll also go EV. But I won't do so until I've extracted every last drop of value from my own car first. I haven't the financial means to do otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Really because you can provide loads of really good fast chargers everywhere, but then you need the electricity infrastructure to support it, which we don't have. We are improving, but then you have to have planning permission for grid upgrades, overhead pylons, large interconnectors, and no-one wants that anywhere near them. So its not as easy for our government (or any government really) to do.

    Edit: Even before the war I was thinking of an EV around August/September time, just after I do a 2000km+ road trip around the UK. Not the best idea to do such a large roadtrip having just bought an EV. Now, its definitely going to happen after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    Definitely have been thinking about it, nearly did last year but work circumstance changes made it a less pressing issue so we blew our spare cash replacing the rotten deck instead.

    Looking at the options and chatting with siblings who have at least one EV I'm inclined towards one of those PHEV where the battery would cover all our local driving but then we'd have the backup of a petrol engine for long trips without having to think about charging points.

    I was down west Cork for a week recently and while there were charging points the locals didn't see any issue using them as parking spots, so I wouldn't have confidence going full EV around where I live. If every Lidl and Aldi have copious recharging points all around the country I'd feel more confident about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭on the bog


    Penny wise and pound foolish is the saying that comes to mind, especially since I only ever buy second hand

    There’s little resale value in EVs which is a concern and I seen massive deterioration in battery in my phev with barely any mileage

    And of course electric prices have risen massively in last few years and will continue to do so as we become more and more reliable on gas to backup the unreliable wind production



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I've bought 2 EVs that were 2k or less including a 2019 LDV. Depreciation hurts every new car and EVs are no different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    Thanks. A follow-on question:

    Am mindful of how with ICE cars, the manufacturer's figures for mpg don't exactly tally with real-world experience, as the manufacturer figures are based on ideal driving conditions. For instance, for the diesel car I currently drive, the manufacturer figure is 58.9 mpg, whereas what I really get is about 45 mpg - i.e. about 75% of the quoted figure.

    Would expect with EVs, the same sort of thing applies - e.g. if a manufacturer says up to 500km on a full charge, the real figure might be 20% to 25% lower - i.e. around 375 to 400 km.

    Now if you only charge to 80% - the real distance you could actually travel with a supposed 500km range is really only around 300 to 320 km.

    Am I correct in this line of thinking?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes thats correct. Same is true for all fuel types. As the fuel consumption rating multiplied by the "tank" size gives "range" figure either in ICE or EV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    So, you don't think the cost of electricity is eventually going to rise too?

    We have immediate impact on Petrol and Diesel but Gas and Electric will surely follow and, public charging in no time at all.

    Home charging unless you get Solar (which is not free on top of the cost of the replacement EV car for the ICE) and, you already have a driveway to charge it.

    Surely, unless in the market to change the car anyhow the additional, unnecessary costs of changeover will outstrip any temporary (or otherwise) increase in the cost per litre of fuel.

    There's a relatively small cohort of people this will work for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Oh of course it will rise. Everything does. Even the higher diesel prices will make the cost of electricity rise too.

    I have solar and it benefits me more to sell the solar to the grid during the day and buy electricity at night to charge the cars (we have 3 EVs).

    It "works" for anyone with a driveway. It even worked before I sold my apartment, we had a charger in our assigned parking spot. It does NOT work for anyone relying on public charging only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    Well my brother has solar that fuels his ev, has saved loads compared to when they didn't have evs.

    All cars depreciate, some faster than others but theres a few people in my town that have gotten over a decade out of the Nissan leafs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭almostover


    It's somewhat likely that during this calendar year that EV depreciation will reverse. If the carry-on in the straits of Hormuz continues EVs will likely increase in value as there will be a lot of people looking to switch away from ICE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭almostover


    Yes, all manufacturer published economy figures whether l/100km or kWh/100km should be taken with a pinch of salt.

    Those figures are calculated in strict laboratory test conditions at specific temperatures, travel speeds etc. They are calculated to allow a comparison across vehicles tested to the same standard, not to be indicative of real world economy. WLTP has helped a little in that regard but ultimately these figures are a rough indication and should be treated as such.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    The 80% charge recommendation is a charge at home thing. If on the move, you can charge to 100% no problem, because you’re not leaving the car idle for a long time. The real problem with charging above 80% on the move is the charge slows due to high resistance building. The last 20% takes longer than the first 80%.

    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,980 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Had my car continued to behave itself I would have kept it- I despise having a car loan 😀- but it was what it was and car was approaching 20 years so it did me well for the 10 years I had it.

    I think you’re doing the right thing considering you don’t have the financial means right now- maybe try saving a bit each month into a “car fund” if you can at all - it will help take a bit of the sting out of things later.

    I’ve always been a “run it into the ground” sort of owner - probably not always the right thing to do in hindsight - biting the bullet on a new or near new car and keeping 10 years might be more cost effective



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