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Anxiety and depression thread (Please read OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Don't be so hard on yourself.

    Depression and anxiety just feed in awful negativity.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    I have exactly zero reason to feel the way I do right now. My wife and I finally managed a holiday outside Ireland. It's been wonderful and we're not going until Sunday night yet since late yesterday my body and mind feel heavier and darker.. So I'm annoyed at myself for feeling that way, the endless cycle of bs that will try to take all the good out of any bit of this break. I feel particularly bad for my wife as I got cranky and sore and with that snappy..

    I'm just glad I could rant that, sorry for the poor me rant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I think this last week, from Saturday to this Saturday, has been rough. It's a reminder of how vulnerable all this has made me feel. And also all the disappointments I have caused loved ones. Really feeling the loss.

    There have been a few occasions where I teared up too. Or couldn't get out of bed. And felt entirely hopeless. I can't really speak to anyone about it.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Try a specific grief group - just talk to a volunteer - can't remember one off the top of my head but if you check the sticky of resources at top of the page you might find something.

    Note to myself - update that feckin sticky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Lots of times people feel they’ve disappointed parents but since being a parent, I know that’s unusual. Day-to-day living, stress, health or financial worries can get in the way of the bigger picture, but love for your kids overrides the daily grind. Sure, parents get cross at times, lose patience, have disagreements, but not disappointment, they only ever want the best for their kids, to support them in their decisions and love them. I’ve seen it time and again with friends, extended family, work colleagues. I believe the vast majority of parents feel overwhelming love for their kids and want them to have full, healthy and happy lives. And when we feel lost or hopeless and our parents are not around to wrap us in hugs and love, our memories of how much they did for us, cared for us, loved us, that helps us to get through the dark days of grief at their loss. The hole in your heart will heal. Be kinder to yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I made a therapy appointment, and spoke with my therapist.

    Went over things from my past, that were still bothering me. And that feeling of vulnerability that was really beating the snot out of me. The session went overtime, I needed it.

    Last night, I just broke. I burst out crying, a really heavy crying, that was just all the emotions and my past coming back. It was like 5 am, so I was on my own. The mortuary cards/ 'In Memoriam' cards are the next step. That's hard because you have to look through photos. And when I look through photos, memories flood back.
    I saw one, an old photo of me as a child… and her strong arms holding me, and I just lost it. I realised why she never took photos of herself that often, because she took photos of the people and things she loved.

    And oddly, as I was walking through the house last night, I saw a light glint off her bedroom door. And my first thought was 'Oh no-I've woken her'… and then realised. And I think that made things worse.

    I know it sounds selfish. But I feel like it's far too soon to lose both parents. There are other people who are much older who got more time with their parents. Both of them. I didn't. My brother didn't. And I resent and get angry at people who get to hug their loved ones, or tell them they love them. I even see it with my relatives, who have both parents.

    And I still have regret and guilt for not being there in her final moments. Answering her last phone call. I didn't get to my phone on time, and should have called her back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Fell into a deep sleep after my therapy session, the day before. Had not slept right the day of my therapy session, and I just slept until the following day.

    I felt like I opened up old wounds and scars, and touched on stuff I locked away. There was some stuff, that when I talked about it, I realized 'there's still trauma there', no matter how many years have gone by. And some therapists, in the past, have been dismissive of stuff. (You can always tell a bad one if they're advice is 'get over it').



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It's such a weird feeling when your mind sort of takes over and you realise things that had long been boxed away are actually still there to be dealt with - also almost nothing as disappointing as meeting with a dismissive counseller



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Had a strange Sunday. Had a dream where I was visiting with my Mum. Peaceful, serene. Sunday's were always the day we'd visit her, and this felt like a real visit. I woke up feeling elated, like I had seen her. Physically visited her. That kind of feeling.

    I kept trying to go back to sleep, until the following day, so I could have that dream again. It was a very special feeling.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    My depression 🫥 has taken a dip and I keep bouncing off my mam , I'm very agitated and short with answers , I hate it as it's not me , I get more annoyed becoming it's really out of character of me , I've reached out for coucilling but they don't wanna know, I'm not going back into hospital unless I really have to , I'm not suicidal and i can safely say that, I'm just existing but I am gonna keep pushing for coucilling as I ain't gonna back down , public services are a joke to say the least but ya gotta keep pushing forward I guess



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It's terribly tough. Look into resources to keep you going on the support sticky at top of page, a number of things may suit - HSE seem to have a shortage of talk therapy which is wild given how much it can help



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Public services are 50/50, I've found that too. You get given someone who's still in training, who's covering for a more experienced but totally swamped counsellor, or is still learning as they go along. And then they say you get 'so many therapy sessions' and you're done, even if you're clearly struggling. It's been a while since I used the public services, but they've gotten worse from what I've heard. The unfortunate problem is that they're under resourced and in far greater demand due to people seeking help for addiction as well as mental health. I don't blame the people who are trying to help- they genuinely want to help. They're just stuck in a system that is broken, like much of the health services in this country.

    As far as what you can do now, try and write stuff out a bit, to get it out of your head. I know you say you're arguing with your Mum, but maybe offer to do stuff that needs doing. Groceries or fixing or cleaning stuff in the house. Anything that just gets stuff done. It's a good way to burn up energy to stop you getting angry or riled up with someone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    the deterioration of our public services is very disturbing to watch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Dazler97




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I'm after making the most difficult decision to try get back in to St pats hospital I need to , I'm so lost and I don't know where to go from here , If anyone here has been in hospital before you know yourself it's a difficult step to accept , early days but hopefully I'll be accepted in within the next week to 2 weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    That's nothing to be ashamed of @Dazler97

    You need a break and a reset. Good luck and I hope you get some peace and quiet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    thanks guys



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    You have to look after yourself. And it is a difficult decision, but I hope you benefit from it.

    It's odd, when the sun is shining, things can feel worse, sometimes. Like 'Sun's out, now you have to be happy'. Another irritation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    yes absolutely I love the sun ☀️, and at least in Dublin it’s gonna be drier than the northwest so also that to look forward to



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It might feel like a backward step but recognising you need to adjust your care to be different to suit you is admirable.

    I work with a lot of vulnerable people and would love if they could acknowledge that like you have, honestly?. Bravo to you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Dazler97




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Yes you, you are making intelligent choices about your own care, it's to be applauded



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Dazler97




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Kind of realising more and more that I'm not doing as okay as I'd hoped.

    April is kind of a rough month, and it's really hit me this time that there's a lot of history to go with that.

    April is the 20 anniversary of my uncle's passing. We knew he wasn't well, and the day he took a turn for the worse, we were waiting on an Ambulance for my father, who was having a fit or a seizure. (They'd believed it was diabetes related, we later learned it was much worse than that). April was the last month my father was at home, before going into hospice. And April was the last month that my mother was home, before she had to go to hospital… when I thought she'd come home afterwards. But fate had other plans.

    There's other stuff, but I don't want to bore people. I have booked therapy appointment. I've written out some stuff, God, four pages, and I just want to discuss it in therapy. I might make a doctor's appointment too.
    Folks have noticed that I'm very 'jumpy' or overly worried, and then not sleeping right.

    Some people I know have also passed away, they were elderly, and these little 'shocks' sort of mount up, in a lot of ways. Takes a toll.
    Geez, when will I ever stop being weak.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It's not weak - the strongest person can only take so much shock - it's the same as physical wounds for damage and accumulated trauma



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I know it can sound like that, but it doesn't feel like that. That might make sense, I hope, in a sec.

    Just today, I decided to get out of the house, and just go somewhere to grab a coffee, and chill, and relax. And be around people who don't know who the heck I am. And it was nice, for that time, to just be nobody. I got groceries after, and I felt accomplished.

    But then I get home, and it's simple stuff one might start to discuss, but it feels like jabbing a needle into the skin. Irritating, painful but not fatal. But the odd time it hits a nerve. Went to visit my mother and father's grave, and bumped into folks we knew. And they ask simple, nothing-berry questions…and they ask how old Mum was… and it's like 'that's not old, gosh you think she'd get another 10 years' and it's like… 'Please don't remind me I've been robbed of parents too soon'. Being the first orphans in the family, on both sides, it's not fun. And losing the last parent, it's horrendous. We've lost the connection and that bond. The connection to our Dad and our Mum, in one swoop.

    Then coming home, my brother let slip 'Mum and Dad were always arguing where you got your 'troubles' from', as in Mental Health problems. Both allegedly blaming one another. And I was back to feeling like trash. Now with an extra burden of guilt. (I was discussing how a relative had addiction issues, and how Mum was always nervous that I'd pick up a drug habit and that would be the end of me. I was lucky, I didn't. Never tried any of them).

    It's just that feeling of being one step away from shattering into pieces. And I know my parents were understanding, even if they didn't know how to tackle the problem, but would find people who could. But at times, hearing those words… makes me feel like I almost ended my Mum's life far sooner because of the burden of me.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 63,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Sounds a lot like ruminating bringing you to a shame spiral, it's actually frequent and I must say I detested being a "textbook case" but in time realised that was it..

    It's just too raw now, take your time and keep checking in with us, there are people on every part of the mobius strip here



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Thanks Grem.

    It's this strange thing. I was talking to my brother a few nights ago, looking at old clips on youtube of old shows we used to watch as children. And I said to him 'if we were sick, Mum would bring in the portable TV into our room to watch our favourite shows'. And he said 'I don't remember that'.

    And I just felt like 'Oh please don't lose these great memories of Mum'. But then the stuff that felt like it was thrown at me… he remembers. To me that was the negative.

    I just worry that I'm the one who possesses the 'archive' of the good memories. And then it's like 'what would happen if I got something that affected my memory? Like, who knows. People get strange conditions at all ages that affect their memory. I've witnessed people with dementia and alzheimer's before and after they got their conditions. They go from a wealth of knowledge, to not knowing anything. And that leaves family members feeling like they lost their history.

    There's objects in the house I'd love to ask my Mum where she got them. Can't do that now.

    And that couple that we were talking to in the graveyard, allow me to elaborate. (I hope this next part doesn't like 'gloating' or 'sour grapes' or something. It's an explanation, nothing more.) They were visiting their child's grave. They passed away barely in their 20s from an underlying condition that they knew about. There are folks buried in the same plot as my parents who were in their late teens and lost their lives in accidents. And I didn't say anything, but it was more like we all know that when it's our time, it's our time. There's no extending that. Plenty of us know someone gone too soon.

    It just… hearing the words 'too soon' or 'that's young'… it's like a dagger to my heart.



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