DART+ (DART Expansion)

Citizen Six · 21-03-2026 09:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124324803#Comment_124324803

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124324923#Comment_124324923

The infrastructure is already in place, and in use, to allow trains from Maynooth to reverse at Clonsilla, for M3 Parkway.

LXFlyer · 22-03-2026 04:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124330970#Comment_124330970

That was my point.

riddlinrussell · 23-03-2026 07:42AM

Not strictly DART+ but wonder if this article is accurate?

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/foreignaffairs/20260315/ireland-seeks-direct-flights-to-seoul-deeper-transport-and-tech-cooperation

"Ireland has also expanded cooperation with the Korean rail manufacturer Hyundai Rotem. The Irish government recently placed an order worth about 150 million euros ($171 million) for train carriages to be delivered by 2030."

goingnowhere · 23-03-2026 08:21AM

No such order has been placed and there are no open tenders

Last order with Hyundai was the 41 ICR B2 cars that was signed by in 2019. There is an option for more but that is unlikely to be exercised as the DART+ fleet and Enterprise replacement projects will free up a large amount of ICR stock

KrisW1001 · 23-03-2026 02:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124333873#Comment_124333873

I suspect it was a government spokesperson in Korea being told to find some facts about Korea-Ireland trade to put in with the route opening, and they mistook the duration of the investment programme for the delivery schedule for the 22000 rail-cars. The order, placed in 2019 was indeed €150 million, paid for under the 2021-30 Development Plan, but all trains were delivered by 2024, and in service by that Summer.

The 22000 deal is more of an example of Japan-Korea trade links than Korea-Ireland trade, though, as it was Mitsui who bid for, and won, the supply contract, with Hyundai-Rotem as their delivery partner.

goingnowhere · 23-03-2026 07:50PM

Here is an interesting insight or two

Those 41 were paid for out of the DART+ budget, seriously

A non powered wheel set on a ICR is the same part number as that under a 86xx and 28xx

Mitsui did the bogies and wheelsets, Rotem did the bodyshells, assembly and systems integration

lateconnection · 05-04-2026 01:47PM

One of the reports on the Kilcock depot states that “the remainder of the fleet will be stabled at various locations across the network.”

The depot is being designed to take 32 trains. There will be 75 trains once DART+ is finished (and even more if the 8500s are retained). Where will the remaining 43 trains go?

Drogheda can take around 11 trains, Fairview could take 12, Spencer Dock could take 4, Bray could take 7, M3 Parkway 4, but I don’t know where else could take any?

Surely there are plans for an additional stabling yard or two somewhere on the network?

LXFlyer · 05-04-2026 02:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124365212#Comment_124365212

Connolly and Heuston surely?

murphaph · 05-04-2026 03:08PM

Inchicore too if they cleared out some of the scrap.

PlatformNine · 05-04-2026 05:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124365212#Comment_124365212

I have looked over the report, and it looks like the 32-units it is referring to are actually full length trains, or 2x 5-car units coupled together. So that is a total capacity of 64 sets or almost the entire fleet. I say that becauase it described the stabling area as being 420m x 90m, or based on the diagrams 15x 420m tracks. That should accomodate 30 trains or 60-sets.

Then there is still plenty of other places for stabling. Drogheda and Fairview depots will have a good bit of space, although the 29Ks and 8500s will still use some of it post-D+. Heuston, Spencer Dock, Connolly, and Pearse/GCD could all have a few units stabled. Further away from CC, Bray, Greystones, and M3 Parkway all have sidings too.

I am also probably forgetting other stations that can stable trains over night. The only place I suspect can't is Inchicore because of the OHLE layout described in the D+SW docs. I don't think EMUs will have access to Inchicore.

There really should be plenty of capacity, not just for D+ but for further in the future as frequencies continue to increase. Honestly, I don't think we will have to worry about more stabling capacity until after DART underground, as that could double post D+ freq.

L1011 · 05-04-2026 05:23PM

Maynooth has sidings, beyond the long siding that will become part of the dual tracking. Could probably stable a 10 car. Can't get the RO drawings list on the website to load to see if they'll be electrified.

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