N25 - Midleton to Youghal [planning and design to commence 2023]

the government/state are utterly useless at delivering anything- thank god the MIUs were delivered in the 00/early ‘10s. Imagine if it was now

AECOM appointed to deliver TII PMG phases 2 to 4

Early intervention, well that’s no harm. Free-flowing E/W & W/E should be the best solution but putting a flyover there won’t be easy with the narrow-ness of the N25 exit to Youghal.

Thats the problem with these plans, mission creep. A bypass could have done cheaply for Castlemarytr years ago. Killeagh important but less so.

The scope here has been like an accordion for the last few decades - expanding and narrowing from short individual bypasses to full new offline road from west of Castlemartyr to east of Killeagh.

I think your thinking here is the reason the scope has been like an accordion, 1. there are no easy solutions for Lakeview RAB so the scope widens to full Middleton to east of Killeagh, 2. they realize that 1. is going to be too difficult/expensive so the scope narrows to just bypasses of Castlemartyr and Killeagh which are relatively cheap and easy so scope gets widen again and back to step 1. we go.

I'm sure that whatever solution is announced for the Lakeview RAB will cause such a reaction that the project will again be dropped. They should just push on with bypasses of Castlemartyr and Killeagh

The only cheap Lakeview fix is a single lane EW flyover of the existing roundabout and making the n25 2+2 slightly further East of midleton to accommodate this.

The biggest delays at the moment are nothing to do with the n25, it's over development of the r630 South of Lakeview causing spillover queueing on to the roundabout, and changing the roundabout won't help that.

At least taking the East West traffic off it will reduce the queueing a little.

Alternatively scrap active travel as a concept, go back to maximising the bailick road parallel to the r630 for Midleton bound and local traffic and restrict some of the north south movements on a new junction.

The current r630 lane markings as part of the new works are like they're done on purpose to make things worse, they have left turn queueing lanes but none for right turns to maximise queueing on the main line. It's like someone sat down with crayons and said right, here's a road and here's a cycle lane, how can we make the road part as inefficient as possible?

You could just as easily say close the n25 during those hours so the people of mogeely and ladysbridge don't have to queue at the lights.

In fact why not close all junctions except the ones you're using obviously?

The road network exists to serve everyone, not just those one N routes.

That's promising. At least they're calling it Midleton to Youghal, and not something like N25bypasses.

There is new cameras after going up along the road on the Castlemartr side of Killeagh and outside Castlemarytr, I wonder are they related.

Ground level is great, but if it just means replacing a single overpass with multiple sets of crossings each with their own long wait it may be even less attractive. Think of the obstacle course for pedestrians trying to cross the Sarsfield Road Roundabout on the N40, compared to the direct pedestrian bridge they used to have.