Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

Edogbo was out of feet after 5 mins and he only played 10mins. He would not be help this week.

Just not at this level unfortunately

Edogbo always looks gassed! It just the way he carries himself

What is the point of picking TOT at Loosehead?

Presumably they think he's better than Milne

What was the point of Milne moving to Munster?

So Michael Milne could prolong his career. He would be fourth choice at Leinster right now. I doubt anyone in the Irish management cared that he moved.

What ws the point of Mine playing v France?

Maybe they wanted to see what he could do. What's the point of picking any new players?

Are they now moving Porter back again to Loosehead?

Porter has been a loosehead for what, four years now?

Izuchukwu didn't do enough last week.

I take it you missed the game last week. I think it might be on one of the catch up services. Have a watch.

This is the problem with Farrell. He’ll give some guys a go against an Italy, Fiji, Japan or whoever. And unless they put in a 10/10 MOTM performance, they get thrown on the scrap heap, even if they actually played quite well.

Other guys, he’ll persist with literally for years, give them chance after chance to stake their claim before they start to look international quality.

Lol you're a gas man. As soon as there is ever a sniff of negativity about a Munster player you arrive here quicker than McCaw got to a ruck.

If you cannot see the difference between what Former said regarding the negativity on here to the comment he made about Milne then there is no helping you. Not once did he say nobody is allowed to be criticised etc. But calling for a managers head is a little bit different I'm sure anyone would reasonably agree.

Bloody hell, the guy has literally just come back from the guts of 2 seasons out. Give him a chance before he is categorised as not at this level.

We very very rarely have an athlete like him available to us.

I’d have kept Izzy and Edogbo in place, not that I think either went great last week but just because I think both are worth a proper look. Edogbo only got 10 minutes from what I can remember last week.
Loughman lucky to keep his spot I think.

It should be apparent that Joe McPenalties should be dropped and replaced by Izzi. "Big Joe" hasn't really put in a good performance in quite a while, and has some absolutely dumb moments. Meanwhile Beirne is the player of tournament for the Lions.

Ryan is much more of a TH lock than Joe, and Izzy made a huge difference in the lineout.

It's not Izzy's problem that Andy wanted him wide in attack, he's much better in the tight exchanges.

Look, I see a lot of what you're saying here DBK1, but FFF has a history - which I won't be quoting, but examples abound - of hammering anyone who is critical of Farrell, but equally being able to dish out some hefty criticism of their own.

Today's "I doubt anyone in the Irish management cared that [Milne] moved" may not be the worst example, but it's getting towards disparaging of a player who we had to call on not 2 weeks ago… and indeed played well and scored a try.

The guy's only just turned 27, LH isn't a position of great strength for us, and he'll absolutely think with regular gametime, he can move up the pecking order and try get himself into a RWC squad.

Like we're often told that Farrell has promoted guys from way down provincial pecking orders, but now we're told to doubt if any of the management cared he moved?

I just think it's another example of some fairly obvious hypocrisy tbh.

Milne is easily our best carrying loosehead. I've seen some great performances from him at scrum time too, so it appears that these guys are judging a much younger Michael Milne who wasn't changed a day since he was at Leinster..