General Star Trek thread

I'm just…I miss when things were just about how good a show was or not. I really hate how things are now…things are "woke" or they are "not woke enough", or they are "awesome" or the "worst thing ever!".

Opinion on damn near everything seems to focus on what package of political leanings you tend to go for and ramped up to the high heavens.

In the middle of it all you have a viewer like myself just asking: Is it any good? Is it fun?

That's all that's ever mattered to me, but all of this noise around what should just be another Trek show just puts me off touching it at all. FFS, there's a Jem Hadar hybrid teaching at Starfleet F*cking Academy?! The DS9 fan in me would have loved to know about the story around that….but no…it's just not worth it.

I don't trust the quality of the shows anymore. Have been burned too many times now, and now all of this noise. I miss being able to just chat about fan theories on the Trek universe…about the ships…all that fun stuff. It's been a while….

One youtubers comment that I tuned into tonight "The studio is Gas lightening the negative views expressed on YT" are something like that from "The Kurtzman Trek NIGHTMARE Is Finally OVER!"

I usually absorb anything star trek that I can possibly can get. But haven't sourced or looked at this series yet. Nor have i watched any YouTube reviews of it.

It 2 seasons of a show that is already filmed, sealed and done. So it can't be edited based on viewer opinions. Unlikely to get a third season, so what is the point of watching. Especially when nothing of the concept of the show interests me.

As I am posting, I did enjoy this AI (slop) made Piss take of the show. Has some fun concepts, as I said didn't watch Academy, so don't know how accurate or not is on the show?

Christ that's one of the most excruciatingly awful things I've ever seen. Idiotic straw-man AI-slop garbage.

It doesn't sum anything up. I don't need to defend Starfleet Academy (it is, so far, mediocre at best) to point out that whatever idiot "prompted" that video just made up their own version of the show to object to, take the piss out of, and pander to right-wing dickheads for clicks and lols.

It's borderline fascist propaganda ffs. "The problems of the future didn't start in the future.. they started here and now, by being too soft and caring". All slopped together by some idiot in an afternoon of AI prompting.

Having to contend with **** half-baked new Star Trek series is bad enough, then this is the level of discourse around it. Depressing.

Nah, wouldn't worry about anything in that video… that's taking the barest hints of things and blowing them up to full hyperbole to pretend the show is something it's not.

Now, it's not a great show, or even perhaps a good show, but there really isn't anything even remotely out of the ordinary on the woke/not woke scale… it's just a very normal silly teen school show with the Trek element very loosely thrown in. It's Sci-Fi Hogwarts, complete with quirky aloof headmaster. The odder disconnect I find is that it's written as if they're all 16 or 17, but they're playing people in their 20s, so the hijinks and behaviours just feel a bit off to me. For instance the last episode is a prank war between student groups including students getting surprise-apparated (sorry, beamed), and effectively features a space-mandrake. As I said, sci-fi hogwarts.

I wonder how much of it is troll bots.

Like the most popular streaming show in recent times has been "Pluribus" which has a lead who's female and gay, a co-lead who's female and "gay" (inverted commas because of the nature of the show) and actually no straight white male characters whatsoever from what I can tell. Which just tells me that the vast majority of people couldn't give a **** about the identity make-up of the cast, they just care if it's good TV or not.

I think the real tell is how many watched it on youtube for free - they can't fake that.

Studios have been known to pay for "good" reviews on IMDB and RT to counter the hate it crowd, even studios have been known to cherry pick lines from reviews to promote stuff when the review was anything but positive