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Lies of P

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Came across the first enemy that caused me big trouble. Mini boss. Mad Clown Puppet. Had to learn off all his moves and counter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,474 ✭✭✭Cordell


    There will be difficulty spikes, and the DLC is another level altogether, but man it is so worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    So learning quite fast that Capacity should have been a stat I invested in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    And game completed! Really enjoyed it. Highly recommended if you like the Souls genre. The difficulty definitely did spike up. Nameless Puppet was a shocker. I had to use everything the game made available to take him down.

    Onto DLC now. I’ll probably platinum it because I liked it so much



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,414 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Nameless Puppet was the first boss where I had to start using all the throwables I'd collected in the game but never bothered using. Even then I mostly ran out of them and had to keep struggling against him.

    The DLC is great. A decent chunk of areas and new enemy types, some great boss fights and new weapons. It's a great challenge too, even coming off the main game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Tried out the Aegis Legion arm since Nameless Puppet and it’s like playing on easy mode. Block and attack same time. Not the most exciting style of play but handy for the big enemies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    That boss that is hidden halfway on a lift that has a few moves that regenerates its health bar….die. Spent way too much time on that for only a Quartz



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 HopingforNewZ


    Nameless Puppet is an absolutely beast of a boss even by Soulslike standards. The DLC is also fantastic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,474 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Is it too much to say that this is a soulslike better than the souls games themselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,414 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "The souls games" - Yes, I'd say it's too much to say that. Someone could deem it better than one, maybe two of them, depending on subjective preference and I wouldn't necessarily argue, but I don't think it could truly be considered objectively better than all the souls games.

    There are so many things Lies Of P does really well. The balance it achieves in having general Souls-like combat while also incorporating the rally system from Bloodborne and the parrying from Sekiro is remarkable. It also kind of waters down the experience though, because Souls combat is supposed to be pretty deliberate and methodical, whereas Bloodborne and Sekiro favour being very aggressive. There's a great array of bosses (and mini-bosses), but there are also cheapish movesets they have which can be designed to purposefully catch you out with weird hesitations or fake-out critical hits rather than just being difficult to deal with. The setting and world they created is great and I particularly like how the fast travel menu shows icons when a character needs to talk to you, but a lot of Krat looks very samey and unremarkable. As great as the general level design and music are, it's no Dark Souls.

    Personal preference might have someone put it above one or two of the DS games (which is fair as it emulates those games so closely in its entire design), but I'd definitely disagree with someone saying it's just better than the Souls games in general.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,474 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Seeing that you mention Sekiro and Bloodborne, by souls I meant games from From that have Souls in their title, which are 4. In my opinion Lies of P is better than all these 4 games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,414 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oh sure, I'm not comparing Lies of P to Bloodborne or Sekiro directly, it's just important to mention them as while LoP is certainly a Soulslike and copying the format of the four Souls games in so many ways, arguably the combat is closer to a combination of Bloodborne and Sekiro.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Demon’s Souls was my first ever one so that will always be a special game to me. Dark Souls 1 has interconnectivity that has never been matched since. I love the slower style in both of these games. Dark Souls 2 I really enjoyed as I felt you needed to be very tactical to navigate the level, or you’d get ganked quite easily. Dark Souls 3 I probably would have enjoyed more if I had played it before Elden Ring but it just felt and looked liked Elden Ring with much less combat options and a more boring map

    I recently played Wuchang Fallen Fearhers. Another very good soulslike but it’s not really parry focused, you need to roll dodge more. It also allows an infinite amount of respec so you can try all the different styles. Exploration is better than most of these games. Would recommend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 HopingforNewZ


    I don't think its an outrageous shout to prefer LoP over the DS games. I probably like it more than DS1 & 2. It reminds me mostly of Bloodborne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,414 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I can see why it might be a personal preference (same way you can like a band's song or a director's movie while still acknowledging it's not their best one, just your favourite). I'd just really struggle to think of anything important Lies of P does better than the Souls games, particularly as it tries to copy FromSoftware games in almost every regard.

    Aside from graphics and some QoL improvements, it gets as close to being as great as a Souls game in those regards, but it never quite has that little bit of finesse, originality or evolution that the Souls games do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    DLC done and dusted. Special grindstone for perfect parrying was invaluable. No idea Penn how you survived the move at the start of phase 2 without it. That was one hell of a DLC. Up there with the Elden Ring one for value for money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,414 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    From memory I was probably taking a couple of hits through it and having to spam heal after it, but a lot of times when there's such a flurry of attacks like that, once you get the timing right for the first one or two hits, just mashing block/parry after that will block most of the hits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Lies of P is good, but better than the Souls games…absolutely not.

    I am very biased though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Finished the DLC Overture last night. Decent extra content, but the Lumacchio fight was not enjoyable. In fact, I was not a fan of that area in general...if I ever see one of those fish again it will be too soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    There was 1 section I died a few times and whenever I tried to rush back the fish used to get me going across the log. I can laugh now but was fuming at the time. Yes that boss was a pain especially part 3



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