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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Sleamhain


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Sleamhain


    Thanks for those replies. So battery seems ok then.

    It also has no current NCT and I'm not sure what to make of that. The guy said he just never got around to it, and with the backlog it'll be a few months now. I'm no mechanic, but notice anything obvious that would fail it. He said he hasn't really been driving it a lot since they decided to sell.

    I'm 50/50 now about whether I should buy a car without an NCT.

    @evftw How do you mean it doesn't last as long as the 24kWh.....I would have thought a 40kW with 87% SOH is better than a 24kWh even at 100% SOH?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    What I mean is that the 24 kWh batteries had the best quality cells and the 30/40 batteries tend to start to suffer from really high internal resistance around 150-200k km mark. That will result in issues with them when they reach high number of charges. But at 50k you should have another 100k km of lifetime left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    If you link the car here, we might be able to assist further.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    To buy or not all hinges on the asking price. No NCT isn’t an issue as long as it’s reflected in the price. If you got it for around €8K you couldn’t go too far wrong.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,492 ✭✭✭zg3409


    You can telephone NCT and go on high priority list. Fo not accept a months away date from the website. They generally will not give you a date and time over the phone but you will get a text a few days later. If that time does not suit ring them again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Random one, has anyone noticed that the quick charger counter on Leaf Spy is incrementing despite never quick charging the car? I bought mine with 160 qc and 6 months later it's at 175. I've only ever charged at home with no public charging, and the L1/L2 looks about right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭_ptashek_


    I'd say 87% SOH at 45kkm isn't great. My 40kW had near 94% at similar mileage, and mostly slow charges. It's still above 91% and over 80kkm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    How old is your leaf? Our 181 reg back in 2021 when we sold it was at 91% SOH. It had just over 75k odo and the SOH recalculated every 3 months on the dot and went down every single time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,492 ✭✭✭zg3409


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    Nissan at it again, battery fault not covered by battery warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭rodneytrotter15


    How in the name of all that's holy are those shower of c* getting away with a party line like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭creedp


    That's a tough place to be. It was the same issue with my 2016 L30 which I drove as a local runaround for 50k kms after it started displaying similar symptoms before it finally packed up a couple of months back and is sitting on drive now effectively scrapped. When I took it to Nissan within battery warranty they didn’t want to know unless I committed to paying big bucks to have it assessed and was told it most likely would require a battery replacement at my expense.


    It’s the reason I replaced it with an Ioniq because I didn’t want to give Nissan the satisfaction of spending any more money on their cars!

    My L30 is worth feck all so not too pushed about taking it off the road but yours is worth a lot more so your choices are either to pursue Nissan legally or take to an independent EV specialist. There was a discussion on this thread a couple of months back where a poster was quoted approx €4k by an independent to sort out a similar problem with an L40. Another poster took his L40 to England to have is sorted over there for I think approx €2.5k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,527 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Would you not be tempted to go for a drive somewhere on an icy day and slide into a wall and write it off?

    Yes it's a **** thing to do but your seriously out of pocket otherwise (maybe not you but the original post above yours with the newer car).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,760 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    To be honest if I had that issue out of warranty I'd either part out the car, sell it for parts, or upgrade the battery. My 2011 is already sunk cost fallacy because I had to pay almost the cost of the car in parts and tires in the last 18 months so I'd be loathe to write it off. 7-8k would get a 62kwh battery. Another 1k for a CCS adapter and perhaps a few hundred for a chameleon AC charger from a zoe R/Q210 and you're laughing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭creedp


    No I’m not wired like that! Obviously its a pita but luckily it’s not a massive sum of money involved given it’s a 2016 L30 with 207k km on the clock. Not sure what an insurance company would pay out if it was totalled as they probably wouldn’t be aware of the borked battery but in any case I’m not going to find out😇

    Not sure yet what I’ll do with it. Although it’s taking up space I’m tempted to hold onto it for a while and who knows if I or one of the kids came by a few bob maybe it could come handy as a trade in bonus offer for a new car, like currently on offer for a Tesla Model 3. That could take a little while though😀

    In the meantime I wouldn’t mind swapping the 4 almost new Goodyear efficientgrip tyres onto my Ioniq which is on Hankooks that light up the esp every time I apply a bit of accelerator. I’m assuming it’s the tyres and not the car that’s causing this degree of traction loss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,527 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    No I meant if you were in the person with the 2021 car would you be tempted? Car is obviously worth a decent bit but is fairly useless to them now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    I would be testing this under "not fit for purpose". If a €500 television set has expected life expectancy of 5 years so should a €30000 car especially when it's still under the battery warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭creedp


    I’ll leave that ethical decision to the person concerned😀

    If I had a decent L40 I’d either look to have it repaired by an independent or replace the battery as per @ELM327 above



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    You’d have to think a good solicitor would make dust of a party line like that pretty quickly ? CCPC if they were any use but they’re asleep at the wheel most of the time. Makes a used Leaf 40 look a very risky purchase unless it was really cheap.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭dubguy45


    I don't know why anyone would pay €40000 for a new one. I have one I bought cheap and does what I need but over the years Nissan have done little to address issues. For €40000 do you get a heated windscreen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭the 12 th man


    Irish motor dealers on the whole just want to sell EV's and haven't got the equipment or personnel to fix any battery related problems,I think I heard there's only 3 places countrywide who can do open heart surgery on batteries,as for the warranty on the Battery…absolute joke,they cover degredation but not battery failure…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Hi all. Looking for a sanity check please. Have a 16 reg Leaf 30kw. 140KM. Battery has been acting up. Now at 8 bars and it died on the motorway the other day. Battery is obviously fecked. Would it be worth 5K to get RangeTherapy to fit a 40KW battery? Rest of car is fine. We did some fast charging on the 30KW but probably 20 times in total in the 6 years that we have had it. Well out of warranty unfortunately so it's either get the 40KW or look at a new car. We do not need it for long drives, if we had 130KM range that would do us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Honestly, I wouldn't bother. It's really unfortunate, but unless you have some sentimental value attached to the car, it's not worth anywhere near that price and hassle to get a bigger battery installed. I picked up a 2017 30kWh a couple of weeks ago for a boardsie with 55k on the clock for 5 grand. You can get a 40kWh model for not much more than the price of your battery upgrade, which by the way needs to be declared as a modification and should be updated on the logbook.

    Do you have a Leafspy reading? It's almost certain the rear cells are toast and the car is scrap. Dying on the motorway suggests it died under load and won't be any use going forward without battery repair/replacement. Again, you would be looking at a different EV, of a newer Leaf for not much more money.

    Where are you based? If you're local to me, I could atleast have a look at leafspy if you dont have a dongle and the APP.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭steamsey


    Thanks for the response. Yeah, I'm not sold on spending 5k on it. I'm in Greystones area if you are any in any way near? You reckon buying another Leaf is the way to go for not much more money?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    You're on the other side of the M50. Send me a PM for chat so we don't clog the thread with this specific problem.

    If anyone is closer with LeafSpy to help out a boardsie?? Drop a message

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    Although leaf is well suited as a family car, and I have soft spot for them, there is absolutely no need to stick with them. All L30/40/62 models seem to suffer from unstable battery modules in their packs when they age. The only rock solid battery option is the newer 24 kWh pack that was fitted in some car registered as late as 2018 but they have a very poor range in modern standards. Also some of the 30 pack car may masquerade as 24 kWh model, so careful out there.

    That being said for a local car, with say up to 80 km a day, even the degraded LEAF30-62 are fine until the pack totally dies. Just ensure you start with the full battery every day and be careful with throttle inputs when you hit about 20% especially in winter.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    We're really starting to see a problem here with the Leaf, time has taken its toll and battery death with high enough SOH that you have no hope of getting any satisfaction from Nissan on are becoming more common.

    Shame, would never recommend a Leaf to anyone anymore unless ridiculous money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I have no reservations in recommending them, but always to ensure good battery health first and to avoid buying anything over 100k klms.

    I also usually say to avoid the 30kWh version, but some of them are in good shape if the battery was treated well and again…mileage is relatively low.

    I picked up a 24kWh Tekna from a Boardsie on Friday. It has 175k on the clock. It shows evidence of a past frontal collision with , a faulty screen digitiser, rear wiper motor and a minor wheel arch scrape, but for 2 grand, I am quite happy with the purchase. It's for my Brother and will be an ideal run around with 75% battery health.

    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭DC999


    I have a Leaf30 2016 and it's perfect. People are posting problems here but they are the exception to the majority.

    How many ice cars run past 10years old. I've deffo had ice cars die before that. A 2017 car is nearly 10 years old..



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