Price of a pint !

100%. There is a whole new market that is untapped because of the current license price and ongoing costs.

I think Underdog was in the wrong place and the wrong premises.

I can believe that. A couple of the lads at work said that they couldnt stomach any other stout than guinness. Everything else was "pure muck". One of the lads brought them back Murphys on his round. He pointed it out to everyone else except the 2 lads. Anyone who bought a round after that also bought Murphys. Nobody said anything until the next day. They never even noticed they werent drinking guinness.

I've done it as a prank and in fairness to the Guinness drinkers they mostly noticed the difference between Guinness and Beamish.

I'd swear the hangover is less severe with Murphy's than Guinness.

On a wider note, if a few more pubs in provincial towns around Ireland close down because of this, Guinness don't care. Pubs in Dublin, Galway and along the wild Atlantic Way will still be creaming it with lots of photos of gobshites and tourists splitting the G on Instagram, free advertising. This is the reality.

The Diageo Portfolio is struggling overall, so they will milk the Guinness cow as much as they can until they see a major backlash.

Irelands biggest tourist attraction with international sites, a clothing brand and a tv show. Probably not many beer brands that reach into that many places where the customer might not even be a drinker.

What are the Guinness alternatives? Beamish/Murphy’s then after that the craft stuff. I remember I drank a pint in a pub “house stout” barman says to me it has a hint of chocolate not as bad as it sounds….

Ok it didn’t kill me I survived, but it was odd.

I don’t even drink Guinness in England because it tastes weird. Annoyingly I like the Irish Guinness taste. I would tell immediately it was different.

I suppose I might just have to “practice” drinking something else and get used to the taste.

I think you're missing the point but will leave it there.

Guinness in England has been the exact same liquid made in the exact same brewery as Guinness in Ireland for 20 years. It always was in Northern England.

Switched to Beamish once Guinness went over €6. It's nicer than Guinness in most places anyway. I find Guinness very inconsistent these day's. It's often far too bitter. That's not good enough when it's so expensive

Most people want their drink in the respective branded glass, more so when it’s a Guinness.

People have and will refuse drinks at a bar if they serve them in non branded glass and most bar staff won’t give a drink in a different glass.

The few times it’s happened (never with a Guinness) they apologise up front and say that they’re out of Heineken/Carlsberg/Coors glasses.

Guinness drinkers will absolutely complain. I have known places that had to hold on to some older style Guinness tulip glasses because some regulars have a problem with the new more stylish ones.

Your average pub in Ireland will be stocked up with the right branded glass for the right drink whether people care or not is another thing.

And the Guinness glass is actually the closest in design to the old tulip glass that was the norm before all the branding.

Actually the Guinness glass is closer in design to glasses from the 1940s and 1950s.

It's a much simpler design.

The larger brand glasses have been completely redesigned.

You could get away with serving larger in a Guinness glass but certainly not the other way around.

I think that's the reason Guinness drinkers might demand a Guinness glass, the alternatives are not good.

I'm sure a Guinness drinker would have no problem with a non branded simple tulip glass.

Im from and live in Dublin. Never seen people worry about the glass their pint is in.

Maybe people don't worry about what glass their pint is in because the bar staff put it in the correctly branded glass in the first place.