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Price of a pint !

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,682 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The influencers they paid do that for them. In the case of the pub my friend runs it's a good pub and it's Irish themed and owned so people just tell themselves it sells great Guinness. Outside of them demanding staff put it in a Guinness glass it's actually no different to most places.

    And yes I know the Guinness glass is a gimmick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭malibu4u


    Wish I had, because they always seem to be busy. Amazing getting 3 drinks for less than £10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭beachhead


    In the West End more likely.Or Chelsea,Highgate,Richmond and da likes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Irish male mid 50s

    Never a Guinness drinker, the reason I always reckon is because when I turned 18 and started properly drinking in pubs I was in London working for the summer.

    So I got used to drinking largers and cider.

    Guinness was not popular or quality back then.

    I'd say it would be the opposite today.

    I'd end up a Guinness drinker after a summer in London.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,535 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's bizarre, but they do seem to have cornered that "tourist pint" kinda vibe.

    Millions come to Ireland every year and one of things they do is hit a pub and have a Guinness. It's the kind of thing other businesses would kill for.

    I understand why it happens here, but I've seen it happen in London as well, with Yanks asking for a pint of Guinness. But they do it, because there's no other recognisable local drink that has that same vibe to it, even though Guinness has bugger all to do with London.

    In fairness though, Guinness has always been quite popular in certain places over there. But now it's somehow a tourist thing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,970 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Going up by 4p and 0.0 not effected in the uk going by sky news. Yes the currency converter is a bit off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    There will be a tipping point for the customer and the breweries are absolutely hell bent to see how far they can go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Remember back in the nineties staying in an English hotel and getting a pint pulled in one shot like a lager. Do they pull it properly now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,682 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    We have been hearing this every year going back to the days of LSD currency. The point that people will stop "following it to" goes up more than the price of a pint.

    Generally yes except in the kind of places where it's blatantly obvious you shouldn't buy a Guinness if it's something you are picky about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    They absolutely ream their on-trade customers, compared to what they're selling into the off-licence trade at.

    Figures from March 2024 but you get the idea:

    https://www.thejournal.ie/price-of-a-pint-diageo-6337793-Mar2024/?utm_source=story

    Of the remaining amount, €1.46 goes to Diageo

    (NB - that is not including excise or VAT, so Diageo get to keep all of that)

    Now there is no way in hell Diageo are or were getting €1.46 per pint / can for what is sold on the off-trade. Even though supplying beer in kegs avoids the cost of canning / bottling it, they're charging much more per pint for it.

    They (and Heineken) know that the vast majority of pub drinkers are wedded to a particular brand, so they can and do charge what they like. But the off-licence trade is far more competitive, so they have to cut their margins there.

    As L1011 pointed out, craft brewers without the economies of scale and using more expensive ingredients can supply their kegs to pubs cheaper than Diageo or Heineken.

    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    We were told it was £1 and every increment since. There doesn't actually seem to be

    For ages, conventional chocolate bars were getting smaller to avoid going over €1, cause that did seem to be a breaking point. They're now €2.50 in some shops, cause people got over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,749 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Jayus I won’t be switching to any of the above, don’t like any of those alternatives listed.But if there is a nice cheaper craft stout I would switch to that at a push. Sometimes can be interesting ones.
    But for the most part I am stuck with Guinness.

    1. I like the taste
    2. It is easy on my stomach
    3. I don’t like gassy beers

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    The two stage pour is gemick.

    It's a throwback to when Guinness started introducing pressurized kegs in the 60s or something like that.

    I pub in Ireland I worked in had a guy who wanted his Guinness poured in one go.

    It came out just as good as any other pint of Guinness.

    It's just another marketing tool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Irish Distillers follow on with price increase also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    colleague of mine loves the Guinness nitro surge cans at 2 Euro a can, his local charges nearly 7 euro a pint



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    They're usually well over 2 euro a can, and the only difference is that the head looks a little neater.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Shouldn't have any impact on Jameson / Powers / Bushmills cheapest stuff, as MUP dictates the selling price.

    I said shouldn't, not won't though…

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    This is what I dont understand , surely theyve now reached the stage where they sell way less pints.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    tells me they are normally 25 euro for ten but regularly on special offer 20 euro somewhere which is when he stocks up



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,535 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    They're a global corporation and the money they make is ridiculous. They made over 3 and half billion in profit last year. If they sell a few less pints in Ireland, they won't really care as there will still be enough sales.

    Everyone should get used to this nonsense, because Diageo will be upping their prices pretty much year on year from now on while they continue to give everyone the poor mouth to justify it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭6541


    I did a google gemini on this very subject. I believe they are completely taking the pee.

    I hope I am allowed to paste in the AI return.

    The psychology behind Guinness price increases in Ireland is a complex interplay of brand identity, cultural ritual, and behavioral economics. While a price hike usually decreases demand, Guinness occupies a unique "sacred" space in Irish consumer psychology that makes it relatively price-inelastic.

    Here is an analysis of the psychological drivers that allow these price increases to persist.

    1. The "Pratfall Effect" and Quality Signaling1

    In psychology, the Pratfall Effect suggests that people find a brand more appealing when it acknowledges a minor flaw.2 Guinness has famously turned its "weakness"—the long, slow 119.5-second pour—into a hallmark of quality.

    • Expectation Assimilation: Studies show that if people expect a drink to be high-quality (often signaled by a premium price), they actually perceive it as tasting better.

    2. Cultural Anchoring and Loss Aversion

    For many in Ireland, a pint of Guinness is not just a beverage; it is a cultural anchor.

    • The Ritual: The specific ritual of the pour and the "settle" creates a psychological commitment. By the time the glass is handed over, the consumer has already invested time and anticipation.
    • Loss Aversion: Psychologically, people feel the "pain" of losing a ritual more than the benefit of saving a few cents. Even as prices rise, the "cost" of switching to a cheaper, less culturally significant alternative (like a standard lager) feels like a personal or cultural loss.

    3. Brand Ownership and "Irishness"

    There is a rare psychological phenomenon in Ireland where the public feels a sense of collective ownership over Guinness.

    • The Corporate Paradox: Despite being owned by the multinational giant Diageo, Guinness is viewed as a national symbol. This creates a love-hate relationship. While consumers "complain" about price hikes (often blaming "corporate greed"), they rarely boycott the brand because doing so feels like rejecting a part of Irish identity.
    • Social Proof: Because "everyone" drinks it, the Bandwagon Effect ensures that even as the price hits €7 or €8 in Dublin, the social cost of being the only one not drinking the "standard" pint outweighs the financial cost.

    4. Substitution and Mental Accounting

    In economic terms, Guinness has very few close substitutes in the minds of its drinkers.

    • The "One Choice" Bias: While Beamish or Murphy’s are available and often cheaper, many Guinness drinkers don't view them as interchangeable. In their mental accounting, a "pint" specifically means a "pint of Guinness."
    • Margin of Tolerance: Price increases are often incremental (e.g., 7 to 15 cents). These small "nudges" stay below the just-noticeable difference (JND)—a threshold where the price change is small enough that it doesn't trigger a change in habitual behavior.

    Summary of Psychological Factors

    Concept

    Impact on Guinness Price

    Price Elasticity

    Low; demand remains stable even as prices rise due to high loyalty.

    Status Symbol

    Higher prices can paradoxically increase "cool" factor among younger demographics.

    Ritual Value

    The "wait" for the pour increases the perceived value of the product.

    National Identity

    Strong tie to "Irishness" makes it a "must-buy" for many social occasions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,682 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "Should" "from now on"

    People Should have gotten used to this decades ago. The January price increase has been a thing as long as I have been aware of beer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Large brewery companies controlling the pumps in pubs wont change until we get rid of the fixed number of licenses which makes opening a new bar or cafe bar so expensive.

    This is also the reason things wont change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,682 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    That won't change the supremacy of the big breweries. New pubs will be just as likely to stock them.

    If it's what the majority drink it's what the majority will sell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    We would get some smaller bars selling with more variety in Dublin. Plenty of people want to try different beers but its hard to find them in Ireland.

    If set up costs were cheaper people could open small bottle bars like in the rest of europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,682 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The most well regarded one in Dublin just closed down because he could get enough numbers in. I definitely agree with changing the licensing laws but from what I can see the cities already have that niche market covered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Underdog

    Removing the 60-80k value of a licence and slashing the thousands a year it costs to keep a licence valid would allow premises to open that were not already pubs and hence might be more appropriately sized, located etc; and cheaper to keep doing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    The market is bigger if the new small bars were selling bottles and maybe sone craft beer at cheaper prices.

    Lots of people are priced out of pubs now but small bottle bars selling varied beers for less than a fiver would open the market up and appeal to tourists at the same time.



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