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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,312 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    that 'industrial military complex' https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy59kxl2xwzo

    "This will allow us to build the "Dream Military" that we have long been entitled to and, more importantly, that will keep us SAFE and SECURE, regardless of foe"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    The US is a cesspit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Iecrawfc


    Cut from the same cloth the apologists are, they see something in the racism, fascism and/or paedophilia they admire or like...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭klose


    She “weaponised her car” apparently, what a deplorable country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,389 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Dont forget it could just be they like shooting first and making up reasons later.

    That place worships guns above child safety. People who wave away gun regulation then justify this are just bloodthirsty and want as many shootings as possible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And it's standard procedure to prevent medical assistance in this scenario, ya? You can say role of law but let's be perfectly realistic, under any normal administration most of these guys wouldn't get the job.

    Do you think members of the public will be more or less concerned for their personal safety when they encounter these stops? This woman was white, now imagine the degrees of fear for somebody who isn't white. The reality is that nobody trusts these guys outside of hardcore MAGA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Acosta


    MAGA will see this shocking depravity as an opportunity to inflame more division. Trump will probably give the murderer ICE agent a medal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    second and third shots in the side window, all good ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,389 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The medic should be happy they weren't shot for trying to intervene.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Also sort of telling that those downplaying it aren't saying a word about Trump's narrative. Claiming that the murderer barely escaped with his life...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    1000029661.jpg

    A controversial opinion I'm sure, but I think someone who literally got away with murder, should STFU.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    There's posters here that would give him a lift.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Field east


    if the shooter was worried about SELF PRESERVATION you would think that ALL of his concentration and effort would go into getting out of the way first and by the time he is finished with that the vehicle is gone At least a few metres down the road. But that is not what happened according to the video. He was not in the way of the vehicle and he had TIME to pull out his gun and take aim while the vehicle was in the process of passing him out
    to me , it looks like the pillar of the vehicle was between the shooter and the driver and as the vehicle progressed on it’s journey he was looking at the driver through the door glass only. Ballistics and a detailed examination of the happening will indicate what exactly happened

    I wonder if there will be such a detailed examination of what exactly happened and will it be independant od ALL sides?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,071 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    To be fair, most of the ICE agents look a few steps away from an exercise induced heart attack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Not to derail the thread. But as much as I think this kid is an absolute hard rightwing shithead and he was there to play hero I believe fully that his trial result was the correct one. In each and every instance where he shot someone it's reasonable to assume that he was in fear for his life.

    And I followed the trial quite closely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I can fully understand the slack jawed Trump voters attitude to this but what is shameful, absolutely disgusting is that nobody in this administration is prepared to condemn it. Someone called earlier for a boycott of the world cup, it's unlikely to happen but something drastic does need to happen, for all our sakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,440 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    But he was to the side when he shot. He wasn't in any danger. He wasn't in any danger at all when he shot her. No-one was in any danger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Field east


    we all have opinions and , in principal, we are all entitled to them . Whether. we are FREE ,without retribution, to express them is another matter. That largely depends on what country you are in and who is the President/ in government. Laws are constantly being reinterpreted and the US is no exception.
    we must remind ourselves what the word JUDGE means and it’s ‘definition’ we call the work of a judge as the process of making a JUDGEMENT on the information before them while interpreting same in REALTIME



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,440 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    For those that are interested, the New York Times did an investigation into a particular ICE raid in California.

    This came to mind because one of the people affected by it was driving when an ICE car swerved in front of them and they were accused of driving into the ICE car.

    Another guy was clipped by them. His wing mirror was broken. He stayed to get their insurance info. Apparently, that's interfering with ICE.



    At this point ICE aren't a law enforcement agency. They're closer to a paramilitary group. They're guys with a racist agenda, who are barely trained, who are sent out with guns to enforce the policy of a racist government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    will somebody unplug America and plug it back in again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    unplug, replace CPU and motherboard, plug in and reboot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I obviously don't know you from Adam but I do know that you are a horrible mean spirited individual and most likely a coward as well. Not much you can do about those traits but you could try and stop being a prick!

    Mod Edit: Warned for personal abuse

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Field east


    Of the ‘thousands of things’ that a guard in Ireland might do given the same circumstances, what the shooter in Minneapolis did WOULD NOT BE ONE OF THEM

    It’s the attitude to life/gun ownership/ us v’s them/ black v’s white that has produced this culture re for example gun use

    Why with such an advanced country, the ‘best’ country in ALL aspects, the ‘strongest ‘ country and OF COURSE the most ‘POWERFUL’ country that we have this type of thing happening on a regular/ too frequent a basis along with numerous MASS ShOOTINGS.

    We expect this type of thing to happen in lawless countries where law and order has broken down , where law and order has still to be put in place or where criminal gangs rule the roost , where a dictator will do ANYTHING to stay in power, etc.

    Eg IMO Russia, Haiti, Venezuela- if Trump is not ‘careful’, North Korea

    BUT America - NO , NEVER. And yet that is exactly the case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,257 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I think this is the problem when people talk about the rules of law; this administration doesn't care and will do anything to find any loophole in the law to skirt it. We see it in their tariffs, by sending in troops to various cities and their foreign actions, they dont live by the principles behind the laws and manage to avoid any Congressional or judicial oversight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “At this point ICE aren't a law enforcement agency. They're closer to a paramilitary group. They're guys with a racist agenda, who are barely trained, who are sent out with guns to enforce the policy of a racist government.”

    A completely balanced and factual post- it’s extraordinary how such a post reflects modern day America- but it does. Even two years ago , it would be classed as neurotic and inflammatory - but today it’s fact. Just thought it worth quoting as it’s hard to believe we are where we are in such a short space of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,437 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    This fella has never heard of 'excessive force'. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Field east


    What jumped out at me re Trump’s statement is Who has massively contributed to the creation of these ‘ troubled and dangerous’ times and continues to escalate same?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭randomcorkman


    Military men just murdered a bunch of people in Venezuela. They don't give a f**k about murder. But make sure to thank them for their service.



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