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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    And they're absolutely in the final on merit. That video of Alan Quigley (I think) sticking it to perennial bellend Graham Geraghty was golden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,028 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Absolutely unreal performance from Martins.

    Showed incredible composure to twice come back from go-ahead scores from Ballyhale to keep at it and make history. O'Connor and Codd brothers were excellent. Thought Ballyhale were quite dirty in the first half but are some serious campaigners.

    The whole county was behind them. Well done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Fantastic hurling game for a neutral. Felt like there have been too many blowouts recently.

    A cracking final!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,369 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The latter stages of the championship were in danger of lacking any romance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭KerryM9


    My god this ref is shocking, in favor of the cork team



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭cmac2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jizique




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    Some finish to that game, cracking second half. Some brilliant scores from both teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,369 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Some kick to win it. Great to see players taking those on again instead of endless working it in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    well I hope you'll take that back after the decision to move the free forward at the end - I thought that was very harsh and a brutal way to lose the game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,308 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Easy choice. An uncontested shot for 2 points to win, against working it into the 1 point zone for a possible draw. With no guarantee that there would be time to get a shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Oh not sure Dingle deserved that.

    How Sherlock wasn't on the winning side after 16 points in a Munster final, I don't know!

    I think that should have been a free to Finbarrs that the ref gave to Dingle.... and then brought it up 50m for the 2point winner.....very controversial



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭KerryM9


    In the end it balanced I guess, I mean ideally there shouldn't be such deviations in the refs performance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭mooz


    Agreed, awful way to lose a provincial final that way....some kick though, dochreidte



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭blowitupref




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,369 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    That's what u meant. Under the old rules the percentages from that far out for 1 point would mean all that boring working it in. I was almost starting to forget players could even hit it from that far out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    A few things on the free

    (i) the Barrs player had it in his hand for a second at most when the Dingle player stormed in and yanked it out of his hand. The Barrs player was absolutely not stopping him taking it, the Dingle player could have just taken it but instead he yanked it full force - to put it another way, the ref bought the foul when there was none. It was like winning a free with a dive.

    (ii) this happened over near the sideline - I dont know the rule but I'd have assumed its brought 50 yards forward from where the incident happened? Same way a 45 is from the point where the ball went out? The ref pointed about 20 yards further in towards the goal. Making it way more kickable. Again, I dont know the rule here. Is he supposed to bring it to the centre of the pitch?

    (iii) the footblock was the only questionable decision I really saw in Barrs favour - however, it clearly didnt hit his foot. I'd be interested in a refs view on this. I didnt think it was a peno, he was well back from the Dingle player.

    TBH, its the first time I've watched a game where I thought the new rules made a mess of it. I thought on both sides, the two pointers, its too much of a reward for the shots they were taking - though to be fair the second last two pointer from Dingle was a stunner.

    And then moving the free forward. When it probably wasnt even a free in the first place. An awful way to lose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,694 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭KerryM9




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    If this was rugby, or soccer, that is to say a professional game - then the ref would go to a video assistant for that last decision and wouldnt have moved the ball forward = it was a pivotal, championship deciding decision, so he would have checked it.

    However its not a professional game, (and in my view cant be and shouldnt ever be one) so these types of decisions…..people just have to live with them. Refs will get decisions wrong, and it doesnt stop them being good refs. Thats life.

    I'm not going to put this up there with Joe Sheridan in 2010.

    But it was tough on Barrs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,369 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Soccer cant go to a video assistant for something like that.

    I absolutely hate when people go on and on about an incident just because it was late on. Those incidents happen throughout a game and "we were robbed" just because the last contentious decision went against a team doesn't add up.

    Barrs scored nothing in the last 10 minutes despite have a very kickable wide and the vast majority of injury time possession. As well as the free to win it (which was harsh) some lad plowed into a Dingle player giving them a chance to clear lines very late on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Ah yeah, fair comments- I agree and already said that its part of the game and Barrs just have to suck it up.

    Funny enough, I was thinking 'why do keep taking shots, why dont they hold onto the ball' in the last few minutes. But as soon as they did start holding on to it, they gave away the free.

    But in general, its a bit of a wonder to me as to why football teams cant hold on to possession and wind down the clock in situations like that. Especially on a pitch as big as Thurles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    but isn’t that the rule , you have to hand the ball to the opposition when it’s their free ?

    Harsh, but leads to a better spectacle.

    What an amazing game though. Haven’t seen as good a game of football in a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    Did you watch it? Number 5 had the ball. Turned to look at the ref. Turned around to hand it back but number 2 from the opposition just barged into him causing him to fumble the ball up in the air. That was in about one second. Crazy decision from the ref.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1997681227872997760



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    You still have u21 county finals in various counties only played around now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,369 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Bulk of adult grade non underage level players.

    Didn't think things were so pedantic I had to point that out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    It was certainly harsh.

    The rule is as below:

    “When a free kick is awarded, all players of the opposing team shall immediately retreat at least 13 meters from the spot where the free kick is to be taken and shall not interfere with the free taker or the ball until it has been kicked.”

    The rule says immediately, and there were about 3 seconds between the ref blowing the original free to when he brought it forward.

    However, in defence of the Finbarrs player he might have heard the whistle but didn't know who the free was for, and he gave the ball back pretty quickly once he saw it was a Dingle free. It was a harsh one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Well….harsh - you hear that in GAA commentary - another one is a 'soft' free. Its a free or its not. There are only good decisions and bad decisions - there is no in between. And to be fair to refs, I would expect they will get 90% of decisions right. So they will get a good few wrong in each game.

    In this instance, the Barrs player had his back to the Ref, the ref couldnt have seen what he was doing.

    It was the wrong decision.

    If Dingle had the free they may well have come up and scored anyway. But nonetheless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    It wasn't just harsh. It was wrong. I looked at the video a few times. There is one second between when the ref blew the whistle and when the Dingle lad barged into the number 5.

    The problem with the rule is the word immediately. It means instantly, without any delay. That is not practically possible. In many instances, the ref will blow the whistle and he could be 20 or 30 yards away from the play. The players will automatically look around to see who the free is for. There is always going to be some delay. The aim of the rule is perfect, in that it is to stop the time-wasting and players trying to spoil the free being taken. But the specifics of the rule will need to be changed, as it will lead to further problems as more and more players become aware that it can be manipulated like was done in the Dingle match.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Agreed - if the word 'instantly' was to be taken at face value - then every free would be moved forward 50 yards as its just not practically possible.

    The thing is - is the rule is not applied all that often. Once or twice in any game. When by this definition and standard it could be applied at every free. So why it was applied at this particular time, in a manner that would decide the outcome of a provincial championship…..



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