DCC wants to rename Herzog Park

The single significant precedent is a case from nearly 40 years ago, in which Shin Bet officials were accused of covering up the execution of two Palestinian militants involved in a bus hijack. The high court of justice allowed the president at the time, Chaim Herzog – the father of the current president – to issue pre-indictment pardons in the circumstances.

An important point (and sorry if I've missed someone pointing this out already, it's quite a fast-moving thread) the park was named for the then-Israeli president in the wake of the Oslo accords, when Palestinians were offered a state and there was a lot of hope that they would take it and that there could actually be peace. That's what Chaim Herzog was being honoured for in naming the park for him: an Irish man who had (it was hoped) helped bring about lasting peace with a 2 state solution in the middle east.

That that subsequently failed was not Herzog's fault, and that is the version of Israel that we should be honouring. Ireland is just validating the worst of the Israeli far right by "cancelling" someone who represented the closest Israel ever got to giving the Palestinians a state.

Well yes, protest is a form of it. But if a small but vocal minority have undue influence over it that's not a good thing.

And a personal insult when challenged on your shtick, what a completely unpredictable shock. Seems like you just lash when challenged with reality.

Of which they served just two years.

Jesus, the absolute state of this thread.

All that's happened is that some councilor have tabled a motion that the name of the park in Rathgar be renamed and it has to be voted on by the DCC.

That's it.

It's not an excuse for the usual clowns to get salivating at the mouth in anticipation of calling everyone an "antisemite" and start squirting out crocodile tears for Jews. I doubt the vast majority of people had even heard of the name Chaim Herzog before yesterday.

Christ almighty, you'd think the DCC had started building gas chambers in the park.

Frankly, it's a stupid move by whomever it originated from because all it does is hand the ball to spoofers who'll use it in the usual way to make blanket political attacks. You'd think they'd have learned by now.

More than likely the motion will be voted against and completely forgotten in a few weeks time.

What was the councillor’s reasoning though? That is the nub of the issue. Nevermind all the “usual clowns” as you put it. Let’s deal with the facts at issue.

What “gas chambers” have to do with I don’t know….

What were was the councillors logical reasoning? Also why pick a park to rename that has a name of a prominent Irish Jewish family who made important historical contributions to Irish history.

To me the intent of the councillor was an obvious “show” there are plenty of other parks the councillor could have chosen to rename. Why this one?

Well I think that is plainly obvious. Using the conflict in Gaza as an excuse for a performative sh!t stirring tactic. The park chosen by the councillor to rename was pointedly chosen.

And it no surprise who tabled the motion. A young SF councillor. It plays well to that cohort of support.
But deliberately tramples over the complex reality of Irish history. Sad on many levels.

I don’t like it no matter which side it is. Feels a bit perverted that any party is blatantly piggybacking back on a “cause” in a distant land with vicarious joy. Particularly for certain Irish people of a certain political persuasion. - Supporting Hamas or even waving Palestine flags - have become shorthand for “look at how republican I am!” And to a lesser extent “look at how left I am”.

I think there is something twisted about the mindset, the troubles in Ireland are long over, so they need a replacement conflict.