BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

I would certainly hope so - a lot of areas in Dublin still don't have a 24/7 service.

The new 80, if it keeps 24 hour operation, would provide a capacity boost for Chapelizod and Fairview, with a night service for Clontarf and Liffey Valley.

If the southside is taken over by the 23 and 24, as LXFlyer suggested, then the route could be upgraded to 24/7 operations (since the 24 already runs 20 hours a day), and both act as a capacity boost for Rathmines and provide a nighttime airport service for Rathmines and Finglas.

I'd imagine they may "temporarily" extend the 23 to the Dartry terminus given the 24 is somewhat longer due to it serving the airport. When the A-spine is launched, it would be interesting to see if they intend to extend the 23 all the way to Balinteer (which the 80 was planned to do at that stage) - distance wise it is roughly equivalent for both routes to reach the shared section (Liffey Valley→Bridge Street and Charlestown→Bridge Street are both ~10km following the respective routings), but I would hazard the 23 would be more prone to traffic delays through Finglas etc.

Hi I just looked at the L54 route (existing). If it doesn't go into the city though, it's a bit of a "round the houses" service to LUAS Red Cow at one end, and Leixlip train at the other. But at least it would be something. The route would be interesting, I'm guessing the journey time from one end to the other might require a packed lunch though. 😉

The vast majority of users of the 80 (I'd imagine) are those going into town (centre) or Liffey Valley, I doubt any of them need to go to Rathmines or Palmerston Park, and if they did, a LUAS green line connection might be easier from town.

Anyway, I'm getting interested in this, to my surprise… probably because of the post trauma of my journey on the 80 from Aungier to Heuston. I'm still in recovery ha.

Perhaps they could merge the proposed 22 route into south side of 80? Given how it would parallel the A Spine, they could even turn it into an A5 route

There's currently no direct route linking west quays - city - fairview. Be a great addition.

Honestly, of all the changes they could have made to the westside 80 I think this is one of the best. It will bring people from Chapelizod closer to OCB which is a win for them. It is also a massive improvement on the 130/10 for Clontarf and will allow for much better interchanges. Its pressure taken off of Abbey St/ Talbot St which, while it was going to have less buses than it does now, will still be busy. It's another route connecting Heuston and Connolly. And it's doing all of it without making any odd turns or taking any poor routes through CC.

It's a massive improvement compared to what they did to the 19. While its extension was a great change, because of its routing around Trinity it will inevitably have to be rerouted. It's now one of the routes causing congestion on CG and its routing around the SW corner of Trinity may not be possible with DCC's pedestrianisation plan (not DCC's fault, BC wasn't supposed to have any routes like it).

That said I am curious to see what it is going to be named and what the future of the southern half of the 80 is. From my reading, it sounds like the 80 west + 130 is going to become the 10. But they don't seem to say what will happen to the southside 80. Maybe it will follow the A-spine to Parnell Square and terminate there? Eitherway I would be surprised if this is anything but a drop in buses for Dame St and George's St. Whether the 80 is diverted, merged with the 23/24, etc. I can't see the freq on that section kept the same. So I will be interested to see how people's reactions are to that.

I really wanted to say "I would have a hard time seeing anyone come with a reason to complain about the 130/10 change, but there will always be some people complaining" as there isn't much to complain about. It's now much better connected and still maintains its frequency, technically even a slightly bump for the area with the 104/8 going to CC…

However there are still people complaining about the 80 from the save the 26 brigade, now about how it goes beyond CC, because they only want a bus that goes from LV/Chapelizod to CC. So I am now wondering if there will be the same complaint from Clontarf.

The current 130 terminus is Talbot street so anywhere away from there is good.

Direct connection to heuston and 24/7, no brainer.

Question - at rush hour if buses are delayed will they run a bus starting in city to either clontarf or LV?

Talbot St (and Abbey St too) is a terrible bus terminus for many reasons, but its also very well used. Of course part of that is it's the most central stop the 130 has, but none the less, its busy. Now I think most people would benifit from going along the Quays instead and it would be quick to get there as the turn onto Talbot St is horrible and Talbot St itself is a congested mess. But I suppose we will find out soon enough depending on how people react.

Being it is a cross city route it would probably just depend on what direction the services are falling behind. However given the that LV-CC is the longer section its more likely a problem would happen with LV.

Part of the problem with the routing of the 80 route was the total lack of any bus priority on Bridge Street. The busconnects plans originally had the 80, 23 and 24 going down this street. Are there any plans for bus lanes or cycle tracks on Bridge Street? The road is at least 14 metres wide (excluding footpaths) and wider at certain points. Are there any plans for quick build bus priority here? No CPOing needed, just a matter of reallocation of road space. A lot easier said than done of course, it is a very busy street.