2025 F1 General Discussion Thread

Yeah I saw that, and it is weird because F1 isnt in SA and Lego doesnt have any shops, and their SA website redirects to 2 third party stores so no presence of their own in SA either.

with a brand new team, and car, under new regs, I think a new driver could have been swallowed by the pressures and not come out the other side with an F1 seat going forward.

Bottas and Perez will be better able to help the team build up, provide feedback etc - and can withstand a bad season without ruining future career prospects.

The Macau GP is on this weekend to watch on YouTube, it's normally chaos so should be an interesting watch

Thats very interesting, I'm pretty sure I seen Max Hart and Fionn Mclaughlin are racing there this weekend

It's race week!

Interesting news for Qatar, Pirelli have set a limit of 25 laps on all tyre sets across the whole weekend after the issues with high loads on the tyres last year. Formation laps don't count but safety car laps do so its a minimum 2 stop race

They done this last year too, from its across the compounds that the 25 lap limit is for. 2023 had the issues with tyre safety and they changed the kerbs I think

Exactly. It would not be missed.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/c4gpg757j2lo

Former Ferrari driver Felipe Massa can continue part of his legal action over the 'Crashgate' scandal at the Singapore Grand Prix in 2008, but has had other elements of his case dismissed by the High Court.

A court ruling said Massa can try to recover damages in regards to the controversy, but rejected his claim for a declaration he should have won the 2008 drivers' title.

The Brazilian launched legal action against former F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone, Formula 1 and governing body the FIA over an alleged "conspiracy" he says denied him the title, which was won by McLaren's Lewis Hamilton.

Massa was leading in Singapore when Nelson Piquet Jr deliberately crashed to create an opportunity for his Renault team-mate Fernando Alonso to win the race.

Massa believes that if F1 chiefs had investigated the incident sooner and the result had been annulled, he would have been crowned world champion. The 44-year-old is seeking compensation in the region of about £64m.

At a hearing last month the defendants - Ecclestone, F1 and the FIA - attempted to get the case thrown out, saying it was Massa's performance which stopped him winning the title and the matter had been brought too late.

Mr Justice Jay handed down his ruling from that hearing on Thursday. He allowed the matter to proceed and said Massa had a "real prospect of proving at trial" his case for damages.

He rejected the defendants' claim the issue had been brought to court too late, as Massa had only discovered facts to help him in his case as recently as 2023 - when Ecclestone gave an interview speaking about the 2008 incident.

However, to allow the declaration element of Massa's case to proceed "comes too close in my view to impinging on the right of the FIA to govern its own affairs", the judge said.

"Mr Massa is not entitled to claim declaratory relief for reputational or publicity reasons," he added.

"The present claim cannot of course rewrite the outcome of the 2008 drivers' world championship, but if declaratory relief along the lines sought were granted that is how Mr Massa would present his victory to the world and it is also how it would be perceived by the public."

Massa welcomed the ruling, saying in a statement it marked "a great day for me, for justice, and for everyone who loves Formula 1" and reasserted his belief the crash "stole the World Championship from me".

The FIA, meanwhile, pointed to elements of Massa's claim being dismissed and said while the matter could proceed, it was "on significantly narrowed grounds".

There's also up to 60% off on the F1 store. It's a good time of year to pick up some merch

I'm cheering for Max simply because how McLaren management ducked this up.

Both drivers DQ'd. Max will win this title now