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2025 F1 General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,035 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Las Vegas has some very long straights, so not a bad thing to have for that race either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,035 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Verstappen is the best driver I've seen in Formula 1. And a proper racer to boot.

    I'd put him well down the list of "twats" from the current generation of drivers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,950 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Ah he is a dodgy driver in the sense that he will go right up to (and sometimes past) the line of what is allowed, what is right and so on. Others might be rogue too, but Verstappen is the most calculated of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Is he any worse than Senna or Schumacher? I'm not sure.

    If every driver was as subservient as the McLaren pair, the sport would be painfully dull.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,950 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    He's not. But then, senna and Schumacher were scumbags on the track too. Maybe it's what's needed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    He's not. Schumacher wasn't called schmacher for nothing. Senna was (to put it kindly) uncompromising. But Prost was pretty much the same.

    What they get penalties for now used to be called racing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,035 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Schumacher wasn't called schmacher for nothing.

    WHAT??????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭thefa


    100%. I think it’s even more blatant knowing how amazing a driver he is and thus knowing he very rarely makes driver errors even compared to the next best on the grid. I would argue that some of the next best are too clean to a degree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Plenty of greats didn't need to behave like that to win championships. Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Hill, Hakkinen, Raikonnen... none of them easy touches. It's only in the post Senna/Schumacher era that cheating and dangerous driving is idolised.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,950 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I'd be on your side. I think the antics of drivers like Verstappen and senna degrade their greatness slightly. Similar with Schumacher how he had to have a team focused on him alone, that's a knock on his knock against him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    Schumacher is in a league of his own when it comes to dirty driving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,950 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,035 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    No idea how you can have that as a knock against him. Doing what he did won him 7 titles, and Ferrari a serious amount of success. He set the standard for how to win in F1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Not sure about that. Don't remember Senna stopping his car on the track to block his competitors from outqualifying him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 887 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    Of course Hamilton never punted anyone out of his way . . . . . . 🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,950 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Eddie Irvine could have won the championship in 1999 except Ferrari stopped development of their car when Schumacher got injured. I'm not saying he would have, but Ferrari didn't give themselves a chance. Because of Schumacher. And his need to control the entire team.

    It won him 7 championships, but why was he so scared of competition?

    Hamilton had Rosberg in his team for a number of seasons. Schumacher wouldn't have had that.

    And the thing is, Schumacher didn't need to do that carry on. He was good enough to do on his own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,950 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Nice payday for Toto... Clickbaity post here by Benson, Toto is selling a 5% stake (he has a third I believe). Based on valuation he'll be selling for £230 million.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,035 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Irvine only stayed in contention because of Hakkinens mistakes and general sloppiness that year. Irvine was never really in contention. Along with that, Schumacher brought people with him from Benetton to rebuild Ferrari, Irvine also benefited from that as well.

    I’ve never heard of Schumacher being scared of competition, Ferrari were clear and supportive that you stand a better chance putting your efforts behind one driver, much like Mercedes did after Rosberg retired in 2016.

    He probably didn’t need tha carry on a lot of the time, but he was ultra competitive, much like all the drivers. So naturally he did it due to his nature. None of that underwrites what he achieved though, not even close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,035 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,829 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Obviously Ferrari are known for bad decision making, signing Hamilton has to the worst,on top of what happens on the track they alienated long-term supporters,,I don't doubt they gained some short-term supporters but they will be gone soon and they will see the gap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Jacovs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,883 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The stock value for the Ferrari brand took a massive jump when the deal with Hamilton was announced. So from that point of view it wasn't a mistake. I suspect if Hamilton leaves under a cloud, Fred will be told to follow him.

    Personally I think they need to change Lewis's race engineer. Adami and Hamilton haven't really gelled. Hamilton did try to convince Pete Bonnington over to Ferrari but wasn't successful. It surprised me that Mercedes Benz didn't switch Bono over to George, he's gone from Michael Schumacher to Lewis Hamilton to Kimi Antonelli. Could be used as leverage to get him over to Ferrari.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,928 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Interesting that the FIA have added south Africa to the United against one abuse coalition, Kyalami is already pending grade 1 status. I wondering if we are going to see Kyalami back on the calendar at some stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    The Audi just doesn't look fast. I know it's not the final product. But it does actually look smaller - I thought the smaller size wouldn't be noticeable.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,950 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    Possibly completely unrelated, but Lego are touring a life sized Lego Mercedes W14 around South Africa 0ver the next few days



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/adrian-newey-reveals-design-approach-2026-aston-martin-f1-car/

    Newey reveals his approach to designing 2026 Aston Martin F1 car

    Formula 1 design legend Adrian Newey may be well known for having produced some of his best work at his drawing board, but that is not actually his preferred way of pushing ideas forward.

    Instead, in a fascinating insight into the process he is going through at Aston Martin to help create its 2026 F1 challenger, Newey has revealed that he actually prefers spending time with others outside his office.

    That is because he thinks the key for Aston Martin to achieve success is not just to rely on his input.

    Instead, he considers it essential that the team harnesses the creativity of all its engineers, so ideas sharing is an important part of that process.

    In an interview conducted on behalf of Aston Martin principal sponsor Ma'aden that was released on Thursday, Newey has opened up about how his time is currently divided up at the factory.

    "We are a team of around 300 engineers," said Newey. "Collaboration of course is the most important single aspect and in many ways more than individual talents within the organisation.

    "It's how we all work together [and] make sure that we communicate and we extract the most from each other.

    "For me personally, what does that mean? Well, it means I spend probably around 50% of my day at the moment working with the other engineers, either at a one-to-one level, gathered around a CAD [computer-aided design] station, or in meetings.

    "I generally, if I'm honest, prefer the former, because I think one-to-one meetings are quite often where you can do the brainstorm ones.

    "The big meetings, if you're not careful, become procedural information exchanges without actually coming up with new ideas, which is, of course, the important bit. So we need a mixture."

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    Newey says that time constraints caused by the challenge of the F1 rules overhaul for 2026 are actually forcing him to spend more time alone than he would like

    "We're under intense pressure for deadlines to get the major architectural parts of the car, which is the gearbox, followed by the chassis, the front suspension, the rear suspension, etc, released in time for testing in January," he said.

    "In truth, [I'm] probably spending a bit more time than I would like, about 50% of my time, at the drawing board or looking at the CFD [computational fluid dynamics], the vehicle dynamic programmes, etc, trying to make sure that we're coming up with a concept that we're all happy with.

    "I never want it to not be with everybody's involvement and buy-in."

    While Aston Martin signed him to help it push towards the front of the grid, Newey thinks that the chances of delivering that are reliant on how well the whole organisation - which has undergone dramatic change in recent years - works together.

    Asked for his thoughts on 2026, he said: "The honest answer is, I have absolutely no idea. We are in a period of transformation.

    "We've, as a team, grown rapidly. It's really in a now settling down phase. Having grown hugely in numbers, we now need to settle everybody down, get them working well together.

    "I've never been a believer in saying we will now achieve this or now achieve that.

    "I think the satisfaction comes from working together to move forwards. If we can achieve that in 2026, that will be the first tick."



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