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Tesla Model 3 - V4.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭wassie


    It might make a difference in countries where there are new roads being built very quickly. Ireland, especially in established urban areas, not so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭September1


    That is a problem as well, but it's mostly about poor routing. I cannot remember now how good was VW with updates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭wassie


    What do you mean by poor routing? Have you got examples? Not discounting what you are saying as I have no idea of the algorithm behind the software.

    ts just that in my experience of nearly 5 years of driving a Tesla all around the country for work in both urban and rural settings, I have found very little difference between the Tesla mapping (always had premium connectivity) and Waze which I run side by side. Nealy always they have identical routes.

    The main difference to me is Waze can be much more aggressive in its re-routing suggestions mid-journey to save a few minutes (which depends on your own custom settings). Its lead me in the past to going down some crazy boreens if you dont have local knowledge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭September1


    It has tendency to choose poor quality roads when better alternatives are available is my major gripe, occasionally it asked me to go into roads that were closed to traffic or not legal to enter. I find also lane guidance very lacking. Don't get me wrong VW navigation has issues too.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,479 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Have to say, never experienced this before. It will always divert if the time saving is over the figure you enter in the settings menu.

    What have you found this set to?

    when doing long unknown trips I often keep Waze open on the phone on one of those dash holders and I’ve never seen them offer alternative routes to each other. But I do have the time saving setting to 10 mins.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,298 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    my 251 model 3 when fully charged shows a ta he of 437km. It’s done this since the start as far as I can remember. Never changes. 100 percent is 437km.

    I had thought it would change based on driving style but never has.


    is this normal behaviour?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,479 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yes normal. It’s not driver based dynamics it’s a set calculation based on the EPA range figure against what the car thinks is left in the battery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Would it adjust very quickly if you were on a motorway doing 120 or just tipping around town?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    no. It doesn’t change based on recent driving behaviour..


    the only true range estimate in the car is in the trip screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    It's not a guessometer, but is rather set to the EPA range as mentioned.

    You can get more than 437km in good conditions if you get more than the 'rated' range however (and vice versa).

    EPA range is more realistic compared to WLTP.

    I believe that you can check the degradation of the battery by using the initial rated range versus what a full charge shows over time.

    I have a post May built 252 RWD (i.e. the increased 60kwh Net battery) and the initial 100% charge on day one was 459km (WLTP is 520km).

    Almost 4000km later, the 100% charge number is 455km.

    So a degradation of 0.87%.

    Anyone else here with a 252 RWD?

    If so, what is your 100% range currently? Would be interesting to see the differences based on degradation since they were new.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    ^^ just so you know that slight drop from 459 to 455 is not a measure of degradation.

    The car gives out that number based on a number of criteria, mostly related to EPA and what it 'thinks' is in the battery, but it's not in any way a method of measuring degradation..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Absolutely, just another thing a new owner has to get over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    Yeah, it may not be a 100% accurate way of measuring the degradation but it is an interesting way of looking at it.

    There have been people on YouTube who have taken this approach and while it might not be foolproof, it can give a decent indication of the health of the battery.

    I believe there is an official test some owners can do within the Tesla UI itself.

    If you know how to 'unlock' the day one range, please let me know!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭September1


    What car thinks about battery affects how much energy it takes in and allows to use, so practically it can affect owners in same ways as degradation.

    These are like small units of energy, so they do not depend on how you drive.

    I'm not sure if you were responding to me here…

    However I'm in same situation as you and use phone in holder on longer drives. Why are you using Waze routing though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Paul MCM


    anyone else have slight rattle/buzz from the passenger side? I’ve only noticed it recently when on the motorway and in the car alone so hard to track it exactly. I’ll get one of the kids to listen from the backseat over the weekend and see if I can locate it. Just turn up the radio for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭wassie


    I believe there is an official test some owners can do within the Tesla UI itself.

    Battery health test located under Service → Battery Health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭wassie


    Love the updated charging graphics with latest software.

    IMG_7607.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭creedp


    People don’t really understand EV charging power sharing. It’s a bit like you park in an empty car park and someone comes along and parks beside you!

    Charging alone at Ballacolla with 8 stalls and an M3 arrives and parks at adjacent stall! Charging speed immediately drops from 72 to 48kw with screen telling me charger is limiting speed. Moved to a new stall and speed back up to 72kw.

    Shortly after an MS plugs in 3 stalls away and speed drops from 64kw to 44kw (75% Soc). So much for superchargers😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 scotlad


    Folks, I’m looking at changing from a diesel car that has reached end of life. I do a trip from Sligo to Dublin port twice a week...not consecutive days.

    It’s a 240km trip each way with the only motorway section between Mullingar and Dublin.

    Can any of the Model 3 range do this without charging? Ideally a second hand one!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    Sligo to Dublin and back with no charging?

    Lr m3 should do it.

    Use a better route planner to check, input your intended car, then the route.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,479 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    New M3 LR “may” do it but you’ll be on the edge of the range all the time. Do you have any access to charging while you’re in DP on those days?

    Even granny charging for the work day would be the difference in having to stop at all or not.

    One Example I done last week.
    Dub-Letterkenny.
    450km round trip.
    used 52% on way up but 60% on way back due to headwinds etc

    But I had access to charging while there.
    And also am at or slightly above the indicated speed limit with no sparing of creature comforts.

    What’s your budget for the car?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭wassie


    You have the Tesla Supercharger ideally located along that route at Enfield even if you do need a quick top up. Your charging time would be quite limited.

    Charging before 8am there is cheap also for Tesla drivers @ 31c/kWh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭September1


    Long range ones should be able to do this on most days, even previous generation. Some days you would need to stop for a charge or just drive below speed limit.

    If you buy a new one, going for long range is extra 7574 euro or more however as they age this gap shrinks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 scotlad


    Yes with no charging, I’d usually do the journey without stopping. No charging facilities at the destination in Dublin. What route planner can you use that has a car input?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Anois_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I wouldnt buy it if you're not willing to stop for 10/15 mins. You could try it but I think sometimes you'll be disappointed if its a guaranteed 480km range every time you are looking for.

    I had a 330km car and a regular 370km journey and I didnt mind a short stop.

    However, charging at home and only doing small top ups will save you a fortune.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,074 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The new Tesla SuC in Longford will be equally convenient for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Yes I wouldn't overthink it OP, the Model 3 rwd would be just as useful here. If you time it right, 1 short stop for 15 mins and you're good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    I am after advice please - I want to sell my 2021 SR Model 3 - low milage 15k - crèche and shops car and charged at home - perfect car just has a few dings, 4 I think and the usual rims 🙄 . Should I invest in fixing these to sell private or maybe just trade in with a dealer. Any company recommendation to give an accurate quote Dublin 18 based.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,479 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    wheel refurb could be €400 and 4 PDR could be €200. Price it accordingly and put it on DD and you may not have to go through the hassle of fixing.

    Post edited by Gumbo on


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