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BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    It's inexcusable, but it's usually down to failure to manage/control the effects of traffic on buses. Their over-reliance on a limited number of electric staff cars doesn't help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭VG31


    GoAhead have a weekday roster on the N2 which is

    • 15:40 to Clontarf
    • 17:00 to Heuston
    • 18:15 to Clontarf

    Most days at least the first two are cancelled. The 15:40 last operated on the 10th October! https://bustimes.org/vehicles/ie-176?date=2025-10-10

    There is another weekday roster starting with

    • 15:45 to Heuston
    • 16:55 to Clontarf
    • 18:20 to Heuston

    The 15:45 only runs maybe half the time at best.

    So it's clearly not traffic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    If the same thing is happening every day, it's more likely to be related to vehicles stuck in traffic. Which doesn't mean it's "a traffic problem". It's poor scheduling. Ignoring reality for something that only works on paper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,353 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    10% of S6 cancelled yday - thursday

    12% of S4 cancelled yday - thursday

    https://buscancellationsdublin.eu/

    Not Friday evening traffic

    One cancelled s6 means a 30-40 min gap on a super busy route serving dundrum, UCD, rathfarnham, blackrock sc. Normal timetable needs more frequency at peak times imo. 30 minute gap is a disaster, increases loading times resulting in an even longer gap on the latter half of the route



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭john boye


    This applies to both companies but I'm not sure how accurate the 'partially cancelled' stats are on that site. Very often it takes a departure a while to start tracking properly so on the map it will look like it started somewhere downroute.

    Another thing I see a lot is drivers forgetting to (or not getting a chance to) input the particular trip they're on which makes it appear it's not operating.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭hfjm20


    Suppose people will have to adjust to changing routes mid way through their trip now. Thanks for the explanation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭George White


    Had an absolute nightmare yesterday. The E1 to Ballywaltrim at 12 o'clock was a Donnybrook only service which the TF1 online app never said, meaning I could have got the 84n but didn't. The driver said there'd be an E1 to Ballywaltrim in 15 minutes which when arrived, it was full, and wasn't picking up passengers, meaning people had to wait 50 minutes for the next E1. Luckily I hitched a ride to Stillorgan to catch up and got the E1 that had been full, but still poor information, especially the last minute change for the previous E1, that was mostly empty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭TonyK45


    This was an app failure yesterday. All the real-time apps were not working, and showed many buses cancelled, that I actually saw running. So don't blame software outage for poor bus services.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,622 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Why did your bus only go as far as Donnybrook?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Presumably no driver available to take it over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭DUBLINBUSGUY


    The 02:50 E1 ex Northwood didn't even stop for the crowd at Nassau Street this morning as it was already full. It's a pity there's no VT's and/or extra buses laid on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    All the new buses seem to go to Merrion square not sure many people would want to go there.

    The old bus system was much better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    It's not necessarily about who wants to go to a terminus. Merrion Square is a convenient spot within the city centre area which can accomodate a turning point for buses. If you don't want to go to Merrion Square, then use a stop that's more convenient for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    It's actually hilarious to say that people will only use a bus if it terminates exactly where they want to go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭john boye


    I've always wondered why the 27 is always empty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,326 ✭✭✭Daith


    I think they might be best just combining the F2 and F3 when it gets to Finglas. Have it follow the old 40 route. Having to wait nearly 40 mins for a bus on a Saturday is ridiculous

    Edit: I'll just walk up to Parnell St because that's where the "cancelled" route seems to be starting from

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,089 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Are the night E buses still not evenly spaced out?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    It's still an hourly service on each route - that's potentially a lot of people waiting.

    They are roughly 25/35 mins apart.

    Still not properly scheduled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,306 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    The F1 and F2 also seem to be within 5 minutes of eachother and then an hour gap till the next two. Very frustrating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭jd


    There were quite a lot of people waiting for the E1 at Northwood early this morning when I passed. No electronic dsiplay, no notice on the stop to say the buses weren't running until later this morning because of the marathon, no inspector when I passed, still no shelter :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Marathon day is always a day of chaos for the bus service due to the widespread road closures. The bus service just cannot cope with the level of disruption that the race causes.

    There are plenty of routes with either no service or a highly disrupted service across much of Dublin this morning. You’d have to have notices on virtually every stop in the city there is that much disruption - I’m not sure they have the staff to do that to be honest.

    It’s also a very fluid situation and diversions and operations can change at the drop of a hat depending on what the Gardai decide.

    A morning and early afternoon to avoid the bus to be honest unless your route (and its depot) can operate without disruption.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Depot location is most likely why the E1 is only running south of the Liffey (runs out of Donnybrook) and the E2 only running north of the Liffey (runs out of Harristown). Technically they could both still operate the full route, but would need a pretty big detour through the docklands, Ringsend/East Link, Sandymount & Mount Merrion Ave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    That’s exactly why it’s impossible for the E1 to operate northside until after the race starts.

    But that pales into insignificance when you compare it with the 16. No service at all south of Harold’s X until mid-afternoon. The F1 similarly doesn’t operate south of Kimmage until mid-afternoon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Didn't the NTA want the Marathon route altered a couple of years ago to prevent disruption to buses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭TonyK45


    Interestingly, I have had occasion to us the E night service, many do not even show up on the Real-time information. Neither on bus poles or the TFI app, so I don't know what's going on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    They were examining a minor change to road closures around Merrion Square, but nothing to do with the race course in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭George White


    They said they'd open at 10.30, but at 11.30 they were still not open, and the gardai said they weren't in charge, but the bus driver said they were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,284 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    For a start, the Gardai are in charge of roads (that’s the law of the land), but they do it today in conjunction with the race organisers.

    As I already posted, it’s a totally fluid situation on Marathon Day, and frankly, as per my earlier advice to you, I would not rely on the bus service to get anywhere given the impact that the race course has on the bus network (and the ability to get from depots), and certainly I would expect that any announced diversions are very likely to be subject to change on the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Instead of the closing off roads they could just do a few laps of the Phoenix Park would be far less disruptive. Bit that would be too logical.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,542 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Department of transport needs to be strung up the F3 bus cancellation rates are disgusting.

    Yesterday afternoon an F3 pulled in at stop 7132 sat at the stop for 2 minutes while it was packed full of people and then drove away.

    No way this change should have occured without significant stress testing first. If the drivers are allowed to switch off the route after driving to a stop full of awaiting passengers the service isn't fit for purpose.



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