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Dodgy number plates

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Be great for the exchequer. Spend 1 weekend with checkpoints everywhere and nail people for these easy wins. Make a fortune.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,243 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Yep, this.

    The plates will just move in a different direction, one not immediately obvious.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    You would wonder how long it will take AGS to start pulling for this?

    i would say it's not a case of 'how long?' but whether it'll happen at at.

    when you have a force where open refusal to enforce the law is widely acknowledged - plus a judiciary which will let motorists off on a whim even when the offence is proven.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭JP 1800


    Just seen a motorcycle Gard pull over 2 separate cars on the dual carriage way outside Grange Castle. Both cars had those grey plates. I would definitely say the spot light is on the use of illegal plates. As said fish in a barrel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Shocked to see an audi driver having these plates on their vehicle. But the grey goes so nice with the grey. Tossers.

    https://x.com/GardaTraffic/status/1980269791387451606?t=8qCHI0JrNOfXBXjAryWzaA&s=19



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,431 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Someone said the same about speeding, phone use, parking, ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    There is a slightly opaque tape or film placed over the plate which refracts/reflects light. The tape is micro etched, similar to a lenticular panel to augment the image behind it. If you photograph it, you just get a white plate. Its use, or that of any stealth plates, should be treated as perverting the course of justice, which is exactly what the vehicle owner or user is doing/attempting to do while driving with illigable plates.

    Good to see AGS actively enforcing this now. Given their prevalence, they will have plenty of customers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭JP 1800


    Yeah, however if you spot a speed van or Garda ahead you can put a phone down or slow down if you have time. With illegal number plates what are you going to do if coming up on a garda vehicle or check point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Totally agree, it ahould be zero tolerance from AGS. And pulled until people cop on and play by the rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Seen one similar on N11 on Saturday. It was on a hot hatch, and the driving was not so hot. The reg background and typography were grey. Typeface was very small and kerning (spacing) minimal. By design, it was not readable .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Halfords & Temu shares down today.

    I don’t personally care what people do with their own money, but if you, like my neighbour, spend €80k on a gorgeous exec saloon and then put those plates on it, just know I think you’re a moron. It’s just trying too hard, and the car doesn’t need to be Temu’ed ffs!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    They should really tidy it up a bit too - standard font and standard layout. As it stands its any font that complies with a certain set of basic rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,243 ✭✭✭MojoMaker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,431 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    ??? It is already incredibly precise https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/si/318/made/en/print

    .. shall appear in black characters and each letter or figure shall have a height of 70mm and a stroke width of 10mm. The total width of the space taken by each letter or figure (other than the letter "I" or the number "1") shall be 36mm. The distances between adjoining letters and adjoining figures shall be uniform and shall be not less than 8mm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    I was going to post that information too. However, @PixelCrafter has a point, there is no specified typeface. Specifying a typeface and put size such as Futura, Helvetica, or Mandatory (Charles Wright) which is specifically designed for number plates, would tidy up a lot of the crappy type that is about, even on white backgrounds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,798 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Not really.

    The biggest suppliers of stupid opaque, raised, coloured and back-reliefed plates are small Irish back lane operations that supply plates online, often tied in to re-mapping and customising businesses.

    I'm glad AGS are taking a stand on this. Those grey backed plates are a joke. I have excellent eyesight, thankfully, but they are so difficult to read on the road its become a complete piss take. Why should anyone get away with poor road conduct just because their plates are deliberately vague?

    But the Garda enforcement should go beyond what they've said. The NCT standards should be the standard that the Gardaí enforce, and they should issue on the spot fines to anyone without the permitted templates, ie, the flat acrylic or metal pressed as below

    1000044251.jpg 1000044250.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    If it's an NCT failure, can they not be done for no NCT on their car as it's such an obvious instant fail?

    EDIT: Although on second thoughts, a blown back light would mean the same…lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,265 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The test cert doesn't become invalid by a car now theoretically failing it, basically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,170 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's the same as a blown bulb, a visual IE. they just look at the car to see the light is working, correct plate fitted etc.

    Sometimes they just look out the window and then give you the cert.

    Of course the habitual dodgy plate users have a legal set that they fit for the test and put the dodgy ones back on after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Timesheet


    The volume of them plates on the road had got way out of hand.

    The cops now can set up a checkpoint on any busy road togivd ouf fines and it will pay for itself inside an hour!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭traco


    I really do like a set of fresh pressed metal plates. They age faster than the normal plastic ones but for the 30 quid every few years I think its worth it.

    Sooner the other muck is gotten rid of the better. BTW - I am pretty sure that all the online places selling them do so with the clause that they are for "show use only" or some similar waffle. So with that in mind anyone that orders and fits them is in no doubt as to the lagality of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,310 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Why are people so vain and narcissistic that they feel the need to make their plate fancy?

    Whats wrong with a standard one exactly?

    If you get a €60 fine now (or more likely a €120 fine as those drivers who fit these won't only fit 1), then you have no-one to blame but yourself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,420 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Why are people so vain and narcissistic that they feel the need to make their plate fancy?

    They don't do it out of vanity or narcissism…

    Re 'fancy', I think 'illegible' is more apt.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,310 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Agreed. But if you drive around NI you will see so many personalised, adjusted spacing of letters and numbers on plates to make them stand out.

    "Look at me...please".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    If that was the idea they would just let Revenue loose with the €5k penalty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,010 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Revenue don't get out of bed for less than €10k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭pooley124


    A pic just popped up on FB of someone getting the keys to their new 251-D car complete with raised letter plates on grey background. Owner and sales bloke standing proudly beside it. Maybe word hasn't gotten around yet that these plates are illegal or some people just don't care?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭youtheman


    Some people may argue that it's only a 'minor indiscretion' or as they call it the U.S. an 'infraction'. However, I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant 'f-you' to the enforcers of the road traffic laws. If this trend continues then you'll have a case where nobody can identify or report a vehicle in an accident/incident. And that's not even thinking about the M50 toll company and the likes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭jacool


    James Bond had the Aston Martin DB5 with revolving number plates :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Some motor cyclists have flippers fitted, aka JB style. It's a major offence to be caught using them in the UK,.as it should be here.

    However, I have sent the tiniest plates on bikes which are angled skywards. Have also seen bikes with the plate on the inside of the rear wheel arch, and lorries with plates totally, or partially covered by the rear lift gate. And of course, artics with empty reg plate holders on the trailer they are hauling.



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