Dodgy number plates

MojoMaker

Enforcement will go the way of L plates and N plates. The odd one now and again with a headline that makes it look more than it is.

NIMAN

Not sure why likes of Halfords and Show Plates are being blamed here.

Personal responsibility. Its you who decides to put a deliberately hard to read plate on your car.

Working class heroes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932435#Comment_123932435

He says, posting about it at 3 in the morning……

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932612#Comment_123932612

I'm in Asia😂

Esel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932472#Comment_123932472

WTF?

You think they are seeking attention, when it's attention avoidance they are at.

We are not discussing 'German' plates here.

We are discussing plates that are deliberately almost illegible to cameras and humans.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932472#Comment_123932472

I’m not sure which you hate worse the plates or the drivers🤣

I can just about imagine your head exploding when a lime green car passes by with 21” wheels, tinted windows and a driver sporting ray bans while you scream knob head…knob head.

There are worse things in the world to get to worked up over….bald under inflated tyres rank highly on my list…hey but that’s not going to earn sufficient likes online

Working class heroes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932676#Comment_123932676

fair enough 😁

GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932719#Comment_123932719

Easiest way to avoid attention is to blend in, tinted plates do not do that.

Ok they might avoid being read by ANPR, but they definitely won't make the car less obvious, most police forces in the world would be quite quick at stopping the car with the illegible plate or in some cases what looks like a grey blank plate.

L1011

With so little actual AGS presence, it's dashcam and eye witnesses you want to impede with the grey on grey hideousness, cursive script, spacing that makes it look like a foreign plate etc

Kaisr Sose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932435#Comment_123932435

You are living contradiction on with your comments on this thread. Maybe it's time to make your mind up on your position on illegal plates. FYI. Halfords don't sell tinted, or illegal format plates. So, if you decide to get them because say, it's your car and people should be able to choose whatever format plate they want, dont go to Halfords for them.

Meanwhile enjoy Asia!

9935452

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932556#Comment_123932556

It's because of this thread you are looking.

I've started looking too and today it was one in every 5 or 6 that had illegal plates on them

9935452

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932594#Comment_123932594

Not every time tbh.

I bought my current car 2 years ago off a dealer. They had put new plates on the car when I got it. When I test drove the car ,old plates were in the boot. When they valeted the car , old plates were removed.

New plates had slightly smaller numbers on them. . I didn't even think about it.

Along came the nct and the car failed.

Got replacement plates at motor factors who said that dealer put this style of plates on all the cars they sell.

So anyone buying off them might not know plates aren't legal

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934503#Comment_123934503

It's still your responsibility to ensure your car is road road legal tho. It's like being caught with 4 bald tyres and blaming the guy that sold you the car

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934510#Comment_123934510

You're right it is your responsibility to ensure your car is road legal but it's not that simple in this case.

If a dealer tried to retail a car with four bald tyres he wouldn't get away with it.

Almost every punter knows that bald tyres are illegal.

Not everyone knows the intricacies of number plate regs.

It's fairly bad to be fitting illegal plates to customers cars without telling them.

And couldn't he have done the decent thing and left the old plates in the car in case they might be needed for a trailer instead of they going in a skip ?

Kaisr Sose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934510#Comment_123934510

That is true, but I would be questioning the dealer, or any dealer, that put non+conforming plates on a vehicle. Some posted a pic here or on another thread, a 252 reg with at a dealer with tinted 4d plates. That should not be happening.

Genuine question: What is it with many in the motor trade that they think anything goes, and it's on the buyer to cop?

Kaisr Sose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934555#Comment_123934555

100% agree with that. I am amazed they even spent € on new plates.

808bassqueen

The seething in this thread is hysterical.

GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934481#Comment_123934481

Confirmation bias.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934503#Comment_123934503

But if you didnt really notice the plates being wrong, then you aren't comparing yours with the ones most people are chatting about on this thread.

They are REALLY off. You'd know if you had them.

extra-ordinary_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934574#Comment_123934574

Anything for a sale. The dodgy plates were probably 'extra'.

GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123934510#Comment_123934510

If you buy from a dealer the dealer has a responsibility to supply a road legal car to a member of the public, this includes someone buying a car from yourself as you have a previous history of buying and selling cars (you have freely posted this information) there are also warranty implications involved too.

GSBellew

Side note, there is a clause in si 318 1992, well 2 clauses actually that rule out 3d 4d whatever d and the vast majority of plastic plates.

They are as follows:

7. An identification mark which is exhibited on a plastic plate shall be affixed with an adhesive substance to the rear of the plate and be so affixed that it cannot be readily detached therefrom.

8. A plate made of plastic shall be constructed of transparent material of at least 2.5 millimetres in thickness.

Clause 7, the letters etc have to be adhered to the rear of the plate.

If you read that in isolation you say, well yes, my gel letters are stuck to the plate, I would argue straight off that they are stuck to the face of the plate and would require pins through and adhesive behind.

Clause 8, the killer blow, the plate has to be transparent plastic at least 2.5mm thick, it is obvious now that the reflex reflective layer must be behind the transparent plastic, that is adhered to the plate from behind, guess where the digits must be?

Most plastic plates are solid plastic with a reflex reflective layer on the face and a clear cover with the digits applied onto it, so non compliant with 7 & 8 as are all 3d 4d etc plates