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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I doubt it, probably the RAF on call, if we had actual fighters deployed here, the Tankies would loss their **** and the Department would be outraged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,738 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Not a chance there will be foreign NATO member jets based in Ireland on an adhoc basis.

    More likely air defence systems will be discreetly loaned and artillerymen trained on them in the next 6 or 7 months.

    If there is to be a fast jet back up, it would be over the horizon on a French aircraft carrier and with the associated presence of anti air warfare frigates beyond the 12 mile limit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    nah, there’s no reason to tie up CdeG for such a tasking, not when the RAF is right next door. I can just imagine the coverage that will get when the time comes,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Well at least it brings this shortfall into sharp focus and maybe embarras the government into doing something about it for the next time round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    EU Presidency is rotational, it will be another 20 years at least before the next time.

    In other news, at least some questions about defence in the Dáil, but still no sign of anything other than empty soundbites.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/10/14/ireland-has-individually-tailored-plan-with-nato-on-sub-sea-cyber-security/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Most Dáil Defence discussion is a waste of time. TDs ask about a handful of stock questions ("why are you leading us into NATO?" "what's the current defence forces headcount" "will the minister increase DF pay?" " will the minister please intervene to have my constituent promoted /hired/ given a pension" "what is the status of X report? ")

    The government then give the same stock spiel about record investment and meeting the challenges of the future. No new information is ever gleaned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    There was articles in the last couple of weeks that things are not well between the Defence Forces and the DoD, Well they never have been anyway but i would say they are fully in the gutter now.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/10/15/refusal-of-department-to-allow-representation-of-defence-forces-chaplains-outrageous/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    As levels of utter bullshit goes, that's pretty high up there. Things never change with that Department.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    So will our Part Time Minister attend this? Will we even bother to take any of it on board? How much will our Tankies scream?

    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-ukraine-russia-ready-for-war-2030/

    I'm betting no, no, and a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,543 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    EU presidency is 6 months, so (if no expansion) will be around again in 13.5 years

    Enhanced vetting procedures typically examine a person’s private life, relationships, travel history and finances.

    Could be handy for picking up on things like convicted subversives being signed into Dail Eireann for 6 months on a visitor's pass… 🙄

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Lookin like me have another pacifist heading up to the park. Great news 😒



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    meh, she can’t change government policy, worst is how she’s going to blunder into pissing off allies with her Tankie BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I came across an article where Airbus are offering Romania new build 215Ms. Would they be to old of a design for the Air Corps considering they looked for them nearly 40 years ago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    The Romania thing seems to be more about Airbus offering/arguing about a production licence, with Romania wanting the newer 225M, but Airbus only offering them the 215M. since we aren’t ever going that route I’m not sure why it would be an issue, I have no doubt if we ever were ordering any new equipment the supplier would be happy to offer the latest from existing production lines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭mupper2


    https://m.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/new-ross-news/port-of-new-ross-approved-to-import-munitions-for-defence-forces-its-a-stretch-to-say-this-will-support-foreign-wars/a1806132283.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Why does any Irish defence discussion whatsoever always jumps to the “sons and daughters being shipped off to war” line within five comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,738 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Because a small but disproportionately platformed element of our politicians and civic society groups are imbeciles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,738 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Look at it this way, where she is now, she is vocal and dangerous. In the Park she's in a straight-jacket. All her campaigning and political associations have to end immediately.

    The governments were content to let Michael D have a reasonably long leash, because at heart he's one of them, and he had a lot of political capital, at home and abroad.

    They have no such reason to give Connolly any leash. If anything, they'll be feeding her enough rope.

    I wouldn't be surprised if things come to a head at some point over the next few years and Connolly resigns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    sadly I think given her comments well challenged on any of her history, I think if it comes to a clash she’s going to go with the “will of the people” angle to defy any censure b government. And she’s certainly not going to cut ties and stop campaigning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    This may be wishful thinking, only one president has ever resigned and under extraordinary circumstances. She is not the government candidate so I doubt she will mind if she gets into conflict with them. certainly not enough, to resign,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I don't have a problem with Connelly being a pacifist ,( I like to think of myself as a pacifist )

    It's the lack of realism I can't fathom, by her logic if we got rid of the gardai would crime disappear.. just magically disappear - Europe was the least armed / least militarised that it had been in generations, so when a full on invasion and humanitarian disaster happened in the east of Europe - Europe and the EU didn't really have many options..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Not sure she's exactly a Pacifist, given the blind eye and whataboutism she indulges in for anyone that isn't the "West".

    In other news, and insight into the defence lobbying going on at the EU level and the challenges to come in terms of budgets (expect loads of moaning about the farmers if CAP takes a hit in the next budget cycle), as ever I'm assuming we don't even bother sending officials let alone the part-time minster to these discussions.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/10/18/we-need-a-big-bang-the-defence-industrys-push-to-shape-europes-military-rearmament/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Grassy Knoll


    yes this comes up a lot, but there needs to be a degree of grown up honesty here. If we are a member of the EU and we believe it is worth participating in, do we think it is worth defending? If we do, we have to accept our son or daughter might be called to serve. Why are the lives of kids from say Poland, Denmark or even the UK more valuable than Irish ones? This hypocritical approach needs to be faced down IMHO. It is no better than our defence being farmed out to the UK.

    This having our cake and eating it existed when we were poor and to be fair had little by way or interest in how the world affected us. Now we are wealthy due to our global interconnectedness and this tension is beginning to emerge on the EU political level for us. I still think the system here has not fully absorbed this and our very gradual defence investment build-up partially reflects this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    That's a very fair point Grassy and well made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Unfortunately I think very few Europeans think like this. We like membership of the club, have petty squabble like family but only would be willing to die for our own countrymen. I doubt the Danish would die to defend Ireland despite what you are suggesting.

    I doubt many would defend with their soldiers Denmark sovereignty of Greenland if America tried to acquire it militarily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,738 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I think you're saying that because you want it to be the case.

    But I also think you completely underestimate and misunderstand the scarring left on the continent from the last takeover by fascist aggression, less than a lifetime ago.

    You don't have to travel far into any of the nations occupied by the Axis powers to see the level of respect and veneration still to the forces that liberated them and those who paid the ultimate sacrifice that they might live free. It won't be that quickly forgotten.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    When the UN forces leave Lebanon the innocent locals will be forgot about by the world unless the French can get there Task force up amd running

    https://www.thejournal.ie/lebanon-niall-analysis-6846676-Oct2025/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Another article:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/10/18/the-world-is-a-very-unstable-place-what-next-for-defence-forces-after-lebanon-mission/

    Sadly the likelihood is as soon as UNFIL is gone there will be more violence, whether Israel just settles for more active bombing or goes for a new "buffer zone".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    It's pretty standard Maude Flandersing.

    It was interesting at the hearings about the Triple Lock, where the "neutrality"* activists declared solemnly "if Irish personnel are deployed to future wars from which they will return maimed, traumatised or in body-bags – because no one returns from war unscathed – your cards will have been marked and this will be your legacy."

    They seem to be under the impression that no Irish soldier has ever been injured or killed in UN duty. If they feel even a single injury to an Irish soldier is too much, why aren't they demanding we withdraw from all UN peackeeping duties?

    *The "Neutrality" activists who were at pains to claim that the numerous cyber attacks across Europe are the work of private Russian criminals, with no involvement from the Russian state whatsoever, and the "Neutrality" activists who rejected the framing of the conflict that Russia is the aggressor who can stop the war at any time they want by pulling out of Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Grassy Knoll


    are the Danes (for one) not in NATO where the principal of mutual defence applies? Equally Norway ( a country with impeccable ‘peacenik’ credentials is in NATO. Essentially NATO for its imperfections involves a group of largely similar minded countries who,generally share a set of values and believe these are worth defending. We I think share those values, but would be happy to let others shed their citizens blood if it came to it?



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