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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,437 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The place could be Highmo(u)nt.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    @derra

    Just a heads up - if you can please provide a link to and description of the source.

    This makes it much easier for others to help you.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭cobham


    Sweeney? is that surname common to the area?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Looks like Timothy and Hanora Sweeney to me.

    What does the transcription on Irishgenealogy suggest it is?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ciaranmcnamara


    This could be Patrick & Elizabeth in 1911:

    census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay__part_of_/Garden_Terrace/80814/

    Patrick is a pensioner of the Royal Munster Fusiliers - who were in occupation of Wellington Barracks c.1892/3, the time of his marriage.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffith_Barracks

    If so, then, though at the time of Patrick's marriage, his parents were living in Limerick, the family were from Cork. This may be Patrick's parents in 1901:

    census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Limerick_North_Rural/Shannabooly/1496099/

    This indicates that they were both from Boherbue in Co. Cork. There was a Patrick Cronin born in 1867 in Knockmanagh townland, close to Boherbue (Kanturk RD), whose parents were Timothy, a dairy man, & Honora, formerly Sweeney.

    record:

    www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=ac592530e4-6718349

    image:

    www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1867/03459/2270229.pdf



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭derra


    Thank you, i will look more into that.

    Yes, the link i provided was the only source of definite information i have to try and determine her surname to then try and retrieve on the Genealogy.ie site in which i have searched in all sorts of variations. So with everything i have, nothing pointed towards another source to read that surname i was stuck on.

    I have to go through my own research information here again but i am pretty sure that came up in relation to the wedding of my great grandparents as i was searching about them and i am trying to find out the surname as in my great great grandmother. Nothing i had pointed to another source to identify the name.

    That is correct from the 1911 census. So Albert Ernest was my grandfather and went to WW1 and was with the East Kent Regiment and survived that and initially was my main source of interest i suppose.

    He was born in Tralee in 1896, came back home after the war discharge in 1918 and then went to England in later years to work and died in '69.

    Just before i continue, his name is definitely Albert Ernest.

    This is what i firmly believe(d) to be his birth record.

    https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1896/02145/1814371.pdf

    Patrick his father was stationed in Wellington Barracks as you say at the time of the 1911 census as you linked, and i also think he was in Ballymullen barracks in 1896 for the above birth record and also in a Kildare barracks at the time of another daughter, Mary.

    Ok, so my doubt rests in the fact on that record it states Elizabeth Cronin as the mother but judging by the writing it says '' formerly Callaghan''? But maiden name is Carroll for definite. It also says by the looks of it that patrick was a Colour Sargeant and maybe by 1911 he was a just a messenger for the crown, civil servant.

    So then when i searched the genealogy site again, i get this baptism record.. (Emmet is definitely a typo error there as it rightly states Elizabeth Carroll as the mother)

    Regards Patrick, he died in 1914 and that record you linked must definitely be him as he was 43 when he died. So thank you very much for finding that. In the census 1911, it states he is 42 but he died in 1914 and on the record linked it states 43 as does the Glasnevin record.

    https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05289/4470139.pdf

    Yes, the Limerick address puzzled me as my own father was always convinced of them being from Cork.

    Also in the 1911 census you linked, i found out previously that there was another daughter missing from the place that night and that opened up another avenue of information to research.

    Thanks all for the replies, took me ages to write this going over some of my own stuff too checking back and forth and trying to explain a little bit about it. Delighted to have that part of the jigsaw sorted anyway.

    Post edited by derra on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Yes, the link i provided was the only source of definite information i have to try and determine her surname to then try and retrieve on the Genealogy.ie site in which i have searched in all sorts of variations. So with everything i have, nothing pointed towards another source to read that surname i was stuck on.

    Thanks @derra

    The link you provided was for the image - personally I think a link to the page with the transcribed record (which also includes a link to the image) can be a better thing to link to.

    Also, a brief description of the record is very helpful - in this case an 1893 parish marriage record from Harrington Street for Patrick Cronin and Elizabeth Carroll.

    This info makes it easier for other posters, myself included, to search for alternate sources for the record such as the civil record of the marriage, and alternate copies of the image such as those at nli.ie, as well as checking to see how the record has been transcribed at Ancestry and Find My Past.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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