Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

Deja Boo

Farm Hand ? Fa H

Mick Tator

I'm inclined to agree with BowWow. The JC is very similar.

Hermy

The problem with JC is that neither the priest, nor the registrar, nor even the superintendent registrar, appear to have those initials.

And while I'm still not sure about the first letter, the I and C look just like the I and C of RIC in the entry immediately below it.

Mick Tator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122712208#Comment_122712208

The RIC didn’t exist in 1940. Elsewhere on the page a person is described as RIC pensioner, so if the father was one he would be so described. The groom is 'farmer' so he probably inherited land, otherwise he would probably be described as farm labourer. So I'd guess a death of the father would show up after a search. The initials could easily be J C - those of the groom, John Callaghan. I’m sticking with BowWow’s interpretation.😊

Hermy

While I should add a caveat that I'm not at all sure what the occupation is supposed to be, nevertheless that's the first time I've seen an error in a civil record initialed by one of the parties to it (groom, bride, father etc.) rather than an official (priest, registrar etc.). Now as to whether it's a J or an I it's worth noting that in all other cases the J is quite distinct from the I as it goes below the line whereas the letter in question immediately preceding the C does not. This of course is of little assistance to Waitsian as I remain as uncertain of the fathers occupation as I was when first I suggested RIC!😃

mrslancaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122685054#Comment_122685054

Could it be No Occ (maybe retired) and the JC are the fathers initials?.

louis346789

Hi All

Need some help on this one. Just before the word Sept on right hand page

Elizabeth Mullen of Thady and Mary Crawley. Address looks like Barronstown.

The address bit is important for my research. Does not give it for their 4 other children.

Thank you for all your help

Louis

https://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000632578_086

ath262

I think this type of link is better for this - allows zoom function etc : https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632578?locale=en#page/86/mode/1up

The placename looks like Barronstown to me, it's a townland and civil parish in Haggardstown parish

ollaetta

The Tithe Applotment Book records for Barronstown in 1834 contain a Thady Mullan:

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587407/004587407_00397.pdf

(Excuse the messy link to the URL)

louis346789

Hi Thank you both for the help.

Louis

quartz1

I have a huge Brick Wall here for a friend of mine for years. If anyone could decipher this place name i would be thrilled.

spurious

Killemny (in Tipp)? It's very small though and if this is a foreign cert. I would expect the person to give the nearest town, or maybe the county.

Kilkenny maybe? What is the surname and timeframe?

ollaetta

I'm not convinced that's a "K". Could be "St" or possibly "H". Is there any similar entry elsewhere on the document which might give a clue?

Hermy

Just the usual reminder folks.

When posting in this thread you must provide a link to the source and a description of it.

This provides context and helps others to help you.

quartz1

It’s a Death Cert from Indiana US where the place of birth for the deceaseds father Daniel is listed . He was born circa 1820 but his place of origin in Ireland remains a great mystery to my friend their descendant.

55Gem

His letter n looks like a u sometimes you can see that in Nolan (at least I think it’s Nolan) and Ireland so the place name ends I think with ny and begins with Kill, you’d be inclined to think Kilkenny if the second L is in fact a k.

The father’s name look more like Dennis to me. What’s the place name above his name, has it got a y in it, he puts long loops on his y.

quartz1

i called him Daniel but that’s my mistake he was of course Denis. We can’t decipher that place and the dna is all over the place . Kilkenny would make sense but equally killarney . I suspect it a small townsland place in ireland . It the only clue on his origin .

chooseusername

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122763636#Comment_122763636

Nolan is avery popular name in Kilkenny all right. Could it be Killamery?

BowWow

Killiney ?

But no "dot" on second "i"

ollaetta

Looking at it now, I think it definitely starts with "Kill" as I can't see the fourth letter as a "k". I'd be veering towards Killarney based on how the small "n" is written elsewhere in the document but it's just not very clear, unfortunately.

mrslancaster

Looks like Killarney.

Lime Tree Farm

There's a Matthew Nolan, Garrythomas, Killamery, Kilkenny - listed 1828 Tithe Applotment

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Nolan&firstname=&county=&parish=Killamery&townland=&search=Search

Mullinabreena

I'm looking for help on a townland. Rootsireland.ie have it as Cartron, maybe it is but I'll like some clarification as Cartron would be strange

Edit I'm having trouble adding the link to IrishGenealogy.ie

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/acf6802369394?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3DBridget%26namel%3DCollery%26location%3DSligo%26yyfrom%3D%26yyto%3D%26type%3DM%26submit%3DSearch

mikewest

Would any of the Cartons on this list be acceptable?

https://www.townlands.ie/search/?q=Cartron

Hermy

Looks like Cartron to me.

Lauras5839

I think it might be Cartron, I looked for a list of Sligo townlands and it's listed as an electoral area there.

Mullinabreena

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122778638#Comment_122778638

Thanks Cartronhugh or Cartrontaylor are nearby townlands. Cartron in Sligo town seemed very unlikely

ollaetta

The Griffiths Valuation record for Cartronhugh contains a "Kimmat" which could easily be a misspelling of Kimmet.

Mullinabreena

Thanks, it's quite a rare surname that only really appears in a few parishes in the 1800s so there was no standard way to spell in back then. Two or one T, or swapping E's with I's or dropping an M. The surname has different spellings in the census of Diocese of Elphin 1749 too. I see there is an Cartronduffy nearby too, Armstrongs lived there according to Tithe applotments which was the maiden name of the Mother of the groom so might be there either.

Mullinabreena

I'm looking for help on this one too I think the surname is Cassidy but 100% sure. I cant make out the first name of the person who registered James Kimmit birth. The townland is Cartronhugh

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=&namel=KIMMIT&location=Sligo&yyfrom=1887&yyto=1887&type=B&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&century=&decade=&exact=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&ddPfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&mmPfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&yyPfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&ddPto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&mmPto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&yyPto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&locationP=&keywordb=&keywordm=&keywordd=&keywordp=&event=&district=