DART+ (DART Expansion)

If they go high density with housing on that site, would it be worth putting in a new Dart station half way between Clontarf Road and Killester?

Yeah ideally Killester station would be at the north east corner of the golf course, off Collins Ave. Not sure that moving it is a priority though.

Better off just moving Killester a bit more south, and locate the station where the golf course is.

Ehhhh, Killester quad tracking may not be easy but neither will the other stations, and if anything I think might be one of the easier stations to quad track as there are plenty of large back gardens to use. Which is also why I believe it is important to keep it roughly where it is, and then open a new station for a redeveloped Clontarf Golf Club, as the spacing would be pretty even for the first few stations.

tbh, I think if the location of Killester is a problem we might as well give up any hope of quadtracking. Harmonstown and Raheny would be just as difficult to quadtrack, and Killbarrack (which is likely the hardest to upgrade) would just have to be closed.

That said I would support shifting the station and platforms about 50-75 metres south to Collins Ave as someone else said. That could add a little extra to quadtrack (although I am not sure if it is practically any different), but more importantly it would be an easy connection to the bus stop which serves the N4 and 104/8.

Moving the station removes the need to take a lot of back gardens along that section.

You don't need to be so defeatist. Not every problem carries equal weight, and some solutions are easier than others.

I also never realized there is a car park there. This makes it even more ridiculous that there isn't a southern entrance to the platforms.

The end of the current platforms are only 70m from the overbridge. Versus >400m to the actual entrance. No need to move the entire station, at least until 4North, if even then.

Also very curious about what two acres they own, but it probably isn’t hugely important as it can be used in a land swap.

I’d like to removal of the DART car parking to the east of Clontarf Road as part of any development here. In it’s place put in a smaller land consuming multi-storey P&R as part of any Clontarf Golf Club development.

Improving density around that station should surely be a goal. It’s great that it’s surrounded by a park, a health club and sporting facilities but it is sorely lacking residential. There must be decent scope here to even build out Clontarf Road station as it is into a mixed use site.

In terms of the Clontarf GC lands and 4 North. Irrespective of a wider project going ahead here, how useful would passing loops be for this stretch?

All of the car parking space?

Quad tracking is an active project though. You'd be amazed what can be done. Of course we're talking a couple of billion