Israel/Palestine Thread

brickster69 · 05-10-2025 04:27PM

Some turnout today in Amsterdam protesting against the Apartheid state

https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1974846979823047098

Sudden Valley · 05-10-2025 04:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880276#Comment_123880276

Not sure why you are positing this argument to posters on this threads. Genocide scholars are saying this is a genocide, not random people on the Internet. I'm sure they had considered your well thought out argument arguing against their opinion.

Cluedo Monopoly · 05-10-2025 04:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880278#Comment_123880278

That's brilliant to see. Fair play to them all.

DayInTheBog · 05-10-2025 04:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880283#Comment_123880283

So you can't name any!

As for the recent report it's been clearly shown that the 3 writers has an open allegiance to muslim terrorist groups and a hatred of Israel. Not exactly independent.

Odhinn · 05-10-2025 04:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880294#Comment_123880294

And who has shown this "open allegiance"? Some shower of pro-Israel head the balls on the internet?

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 04:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123879986#Comment_123879986

powerful indeed.

Sudden Valley · 05-10-2025 04:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880294#Comment_123880294

I dont need to name anyone, likr you im not an expert in the topic. I'm sure there are a great many things you have not seen.

i would trust experts in the subject unless there are persuasive evidence against their findings which you have not supplied.

It's farcical that you think you know better than the experts on genocide. Says alot about your ego.

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 04:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880276#Comment_123880276

Where exactly does it state in the legal definition that there is no genocide if the perpetrator provides forewarning?

I don't expect a reply because there is no such statement. Unless of course you reply with some other easily debunked nonsense.

Besides, your "argument" falls flat on its face because of Israel's starvation tactics.

Miniegg · 05-10-2025 05:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880294#Comment_123880294

You literally have the answer already for this not to be a genocide.

The ICJ already found a plausible risk that Israel is committing genocide last year, and ordered them to:

Take all measures within its power to prevent acts of genocide (which includes killing, serious bodily or mental harm, inflicting conditions calculated to bring about physical destruction, and preventing births). Since then it has destroyed hospitals, levelled a whole city of 2 million people, bombed all schools, destroyed 80% of farmland, and - oh yea, blocked food, aid, baby formula etc from entering, causing what the ICP has declared famine in Gaza. Gaza is the most dangerous place in the world to be a woman or a child. 67k people have been killed, 70% of this women and children.

Prevent and punish incitement to genocide.

Look up yourself the genocidal rhetoric of Israels politicians, you can use Google. How many of them have been punished for it? The famous main examples, Gvir and Smotrich, still hold key positions in cabinet.

Allow humanitarian aid into Gaza - This includes ensuring crossings are open and operating, and enabling aid access without undue obstacles.

Even you couldn't not argue this to be the case. All aid agencies in the ground say Israel has blockaded food and stopped them entering Gaza, which led to famine.

They have not only failed all of these orders, their actions have doubled down on doing the opposite of said orders.

Nothing about feckin' flyers or leaflets or "letting people know" where they were going to bomb, is there? Get yourself educated on the reality of the situation. Stop making up irrelevant nonsense, and maybe you can put a good argument together as to why this is not genocide.

dePeatrick · 05-10-2025 05:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880278#Comment_123880278

that is amazing

DayInTheBog · 05-10-2025 05:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880349#Comment_123880349

A plausible risk is not genocide . It's just a risk it may be happening or may happen in the future.

Even the icj didn't come out with a definitive ruling.

Rocket_GD · 05-10-2025 05:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880276#Comment_123880276

Can you name one?

The current Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people.

DayInTheBog · 05-10-2025 05:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880329#Comment_123880329

Tell me of anyone who seriously wants to kill someone,nevermind a whole people group who will give a victim the time and date when it will happen and a corridor to leave the area before it happens

Sudden Valley · 05-10-2025 05:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880447#Comment_123880447

It's only what the experts say, but this should be ignored in favour of Israel.

gameoverdude · 05-10-2025 06:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123871781#Comment_123871781

I was spat upon by buswells hotel.

I honestly think this aggression should stop. Whatever the protest is you'll see the same heads.

Sudden Valley · 05-10-2025 06:14PM

Have the proest marches not got bigger overtime? This would suggest they are not just made up "of the same heads".

Miniegg · 05-10-2025 06:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880451#Comment_123880451

Ridiculous. Tell me anyone who doesn't want to kill people, and causes a manmade famine, then shoots people queuing for aid

end of the road · 05-10-2025 06:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123879858#Comment_123879858

you are incorrect, it is on israel to meet the terms of the peace deal and the demands of trump.
if israel cares about the hostages (it doesn't) then they will meet the terms so the hostages can be released safely.
the demands of a genocidal racist apartheid state are meaningless and there is no obligation to meet them, though hamas have agreed to release the hostages which is a good thing, and if israel care about those hostages then it will create the safe conditions so they can be released.

A Dub in Glasgo · 05-10-2025 06:49PM

Another terrorist attack in the UK but hang on, it is not classed as terrorism and politicians will not call for the restriction of civil liberties because of it

Miniegg · 05-10-2025 06:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880446#Comment_123880446

But what about a plausible risk, followed by orders, and Israel not only ignored the orders, but made a beeline straight in the opposite direction. Famine, complete destruction, bunker buster bombs on tented villages, mass killings of civilians who had been corralled into a small area under the pretense of food etc etc.

Look at the rulings, look at the orders, look at Israel's response since. Your nonsense doesn't mean a thing. Look at the opinions of experts, aid and humanitarian organizations, international medical bodies. They arent all wrong, they aren't all mistaken. You know what this is, all you and yer buddies little ditties about leaflets or Dresden or Sudan or the emperor of Japan don't mean f*ck all.

You don't actually care that this is genocide do you? You just don't want Israel to be found guilty of it.

Odhinn · 05-10-2025 07:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880451#Comment_123880451

Thats called "ethnic cleansing"

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 07:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880451#Comment_123880451

I just knew you'd have to come up with a nonsense reply…

Time and again, the IDF have told Gazans to move to a safe place. Then the IDF bomb the safe place. The world has seen it a thousand times.

If the IDF were so moral and altruistic in protecting civilians, why have so many Gazans been executed in the queues for food? Why have so many journalists and medics been exterminated? Why did the IDF anally rape a prisoner with an iron bar? White did the IDF attack using peacekeepers in Lebanon multiple times? Why has the Israeli govt. told all IDF combatants to delete their social media accounts before travelling abroad?

Answer - the IDF are the same as Hamas - cowardly terrorists that murder innocents simply because they can. They are committing war crimes, crimes against humanity and Genocide.

And it's all recorded in HD - much of it by the IDF themselves.

Expect more IDF combatants to be arrested whilst on their hollybops abroad and to be shipped to The Hague to cosy up to Duterte whilst they await trial.

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 08:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880491#Comment_123880491

Whatever side you were on or just passing by, that's utterly disgusting. They should be arrested for assault.

Sorry you were spat on - that infuriates me.

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 08:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880578#Comment_123880578

Israel couldn't even meet the requirements that would have led to the UK postponing the recognition of the State of Palestine.

SeanW · 05-10-2025 08:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123878198#Comment_123878198

I don't think Saint Greta cares about genocide, at least not as much as pushing a radical Left world view. To her, the assertion of genocide is useful, regardless of whether it is true or not. She's not a hypocrite, she's a political operator. The Left did not start being hostile to Israel after its response to the 7/Oct attacks, it's been the case for as long as I can remember.

And we need to be concerned about this because in our upcoming presidential election, one of our candidates, Catherine Connolly specifically avoids condemning Russia for its war against Europe (Ukraine was supposed to be just the start), and has accused Germany of going back to the 1930s for re-arming itself because of Russian aggression. Of course, she doesn't mince her words when it comes to condemning Israel.

Though at least she does not go as far as Marxist groups like the South African EFF who officially supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine while condemning Israel and pledging to work with Hamas for Israel's destruction.

Of course, no matter how sick and twisted the Radical Left are, this would not excuse Israel of genocide were it guilty of that. Except that's not what's happening: Israel have legitimate reason to wage all-out war against Hamas, at worst they've likely committed war crimes while doing so. The reality is this war would have ended a long time ago if Hamas had surrendered and returned the hostages. They alone are responsible for its continuation.

As to your point about Jews being a hive-mind, I've never said this. But the facts are clear - there are only about 15 million Jews in the world, and almost half of them live in a country that both Leftists and Islamists want to eliminate. That's a real problem for me.

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 08:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880590#Comment_123880590

Source?

I saw 500 odd arrested as part of a protest - including an 89 year old and a vicar…

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 08:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880766#Comment_123880766

As to your point about Jews being a hive-mind, I've never said this. But the facts are clear - there are only about 15 million Jews in the world, and almost half of them live in a country that both Leftists and Islamists want to eliminate. That's a real problem for me.

Poor you - thoughts and Prayers.

dmcdona · 05-10-2025 08:17PM

Seems Rubio has tapped into Israel being a World Pariah:

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio told NBC News that the war in Gaza has not yet ended, and that "we will know very quickly whether Hamas is serious or not by how these technical talks go in terms of the logistics," adding that the second phase of the potential deal, which includes discussing Hamas' disarmament and demobilization, is "not going to be easy."
Rubio told CBS' Face the Nation that Netanyahu "took the war very far," adding that whether one believes the war was justified or not, one "cannot ignore the impact that this has had on Israel's global standing."

Cordell · 05-10-2025 08:24PM

https://twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1974742063468974176

This gives me a warm fuzzy feeling … I mean, this makes by blood boil!

They start the **** against a vastly superior force and then they cry when that vastly superior force fights back and crushes them - just like it happens out there.

SeanW · 05-10-2025 08:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123880787#Comment_123880787

So where do you stand on calls for the destruction of Israel, such as the chant "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free" that the Left loves so much?

Where do you stand on the dictatorship of Iran waging a proxy war to destroy Israel via groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis etc?

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