Israel/Palestine Thread

how many other terrorist attacks has there been since he became PM?

The posters on this thread . Including your good self.

That's not anti-semitism. That's anti-Zionism.

First off, I'm talking about the Zionists. There's plenty of Israeli citizens who are outspoken against the war and the atrocities, and more than a few Israeli journalists and citizens who have been outspoken and even silenced by Zionist authorities within Israel. Their democracy and military has been usurped by Zionists led by that monster Netanyahu.

I do think it's important to note the difference between your average Israeli, and the Zionists scumbags currently running the country. It's not done enough in my view.

Secondly, most Israeli's are not ethnically Semites or Hebrew. Most are Slavs that have adopted Hebrew versions of their Slavic names. Claiming anti-Semitism regarding comments towards Zionists is like claiming anti-Chinese regarding comments towards a black Irish man, it makes no sense.

Third, I don't care.

If anyone believes that "Hitler didn't do enough," they are an abhorrent human being.

No context or qualifier changes this.

even if they were going there to cause trouble (not the case in reality) that would be a good thing as the israely military deserve as much trouble as can be delivered.
aid and food is an issue in palestine due to the israely blockade which is designed to starve the population so as to commit a genocide.

genocidal, racist, apartheid israel is the issue here not those on the boats.

Scummy post tbh.

Do you not accept that Israel undertaking genocide and telling us all that to be against it is to be against/ hateful of all Jews, is likely putting Jewish people at risk?

These warcrimes aren't being done in their name, the extremist propaganda of war criminals and a radicalized Israeli society doesn't make it representative of all Jews.

But for some reason, the twisted way this is being portrayed, those will try to put the responsibility of these deaths on people who are standing against genocide (which without exception is the right thing to do), and not on the people actually implicating all Jews in their evil mass murder.

No it really doesn't and I think you need to re-read my post before you continue with your scummy rant, because I said completely the opposite of what you accuse me of. Rip to those people and I'm glad the killer was put down. Is that explicit enough for you?

Because it looks to me like you don't give two sh*ts about the people who have been murdered, about how Jewish people are being implicated in genocide against their name by Israeli politicians and their associated shills (Jews around the world are saying this is not being done in their name - yet people like you tell us opposition to it is antisemetic/ causes the death of Jews), and are cynically using their deaths to score cheap points or shutdown people who are opposing genocide.

Horrible events in Manchester today. And in Gaza, where scores of people have been killed over the last 24 hours.

With regards to the flotilla, the largest workers union in Italy has called for a general strike tomorrow, in response to the actions of the IDF in the early hours. They did threaten this a few weeks back, if the flotilla was interfered with. As protests go, it would be significant. And send a solid message to Governments who are doing nothing. It would be great to see unions all over Europe, with workers involved with the transport of goods and passengers to Israel get involved going forward.

Yeah but it's pretty bad protest politics isn't it? I'd say majority of people caught in the traffic today are to some degree pro Palestine, so what's the point in pissing them off? It will just distance people from those trying to further the cause. An own goal imo

no one is shutting down people who are speaking out against genocide. I was calling out a poster for questioning why more is t being done to bring this home to all Jewish people.

you need to read posts correctly before you start accusing people of scummy posts and jumping to completely wrong conclusions.

Exactly. Fn **** two friends of mine caught up in the protest described them as.

If the govt or the people of Ireland were the cause of the problem then you might see some sense in it. But a senseless act today.

Well I don't agree with the sentiments in that post - but that poster is generally fair minded, I'll let them explain themselves.

My problem is there have been probably well over a hundred posts since August where posters have been openly implicating all Jews in the Gaza genocide and they all got a pass from you.

I would say a half dozen times a day on this thread, posters call those showing opposition to what is now almost unanimously declared genocide by all relevant organisations and experts - antisemetic or Jew haters. Ergo this is being carried out in the name of Jews and for Jews (whilst ignoring all those who would be appalled by the implication).

I have pulled alot of them up on it here dozens of times - the damage they are doing to those they profess to be sticking up for, whilst throwing them all under the bus. And when innocent Jewish people do get killed by radicalised people who see them all as complicit, the same c*nts implicating them all along say the ones opposing genocide are at fault for it!!

I thought you were at that craic, apologies if I have you wrong.

Israeli politicians are killing for a radicalized population in Israel who want more land, not for the Jews. Extremists are in power, are committing genocide, are strong -arming governments into accepting it via the USA, and are throwing the Jews of the world under the bus as they do it. They smear all Jews every time they slander the UN/ Amnesty/ Medicine San Frontiers/ etc as antisemetic for telling the truth.

Imo this Israeli government are the single greatest threat to the safety of Jewish people around the world, the longer this goes on, the more danger they are in, and more of these we will see.