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Is Dublin really safe? *Read OP for mod warning*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I think this is being way overhyped. A sports star was mugged in a European city, he wasn’t stabbed, shot or disfigured. Muggings happen in cities all over Europe, and in some parts of the world he mightn’t have survived it. I was the victim of a failed mugging in Valencia but I don't think Valencia is a kip because I'm not a silly fool.

    It feels like the usual small cohort of Irish/Dublin haters are trawling news sites for negative stories and posting them here. If you genuinely believe this is the worst thing happening in the country right now after reading the news this week, you need to readjust your perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭juno10353


    Yet gardai were not informed...?....

    Gardaí received no reports of alleged attack and robbery of NFL quarterback in Dublin city https://jrnl.ie/6829987



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    “Following preliminary inquiries, An Garda Siochana has no further information to substantiate, or not, any report this incident involved a robbery.” Maybe it wasn't a mugging, just an altercation, or indeed a failed mugging… most of them are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭slay55


    the title of this thread - is Dublin really safe?


    Alleged mugging incident happens of a high profile sportsman and makes the news internationally.


    Hardly “trawling sites” and is apt for this discussion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Not even sure it was a mugging at this stage, could just as easily have been a scuffle. What’s clear though is that plenty of posters here are busy trawling the internet for any scrap of bad news to throw at Dublin. Given what’s going on in the city and around the country more broadly, I’d suggest both they and you take a step back and examine your perspective.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭csirl


    That's very hard to believe. NFL is extremely efficient and well organised. The NFL itself issued a press release - so it is satisfied the incident hapoened as reported. The NFLs in house security would have reported this via the Garda liaison officer appointed for the event. More likely an internal communication issue within AGS than it wasnt reported.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,249 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Hard to believe a quarterback was out in Temple bar 2 nights before a big game, hardly great preparation. If it did happen he must have been out on his own, local scrotes unlikely to take on a few big NFL lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I saw a report there of a NFL fan visiting Dublin having his phone stolen, the garda got it back and arrested a woman.

    All the comments were people going nuts with the BUT HELEN SAID ITS SAFE!!! stuff as usual. I mean a f*king phone being pickpocketed making the news is a pretty good indication of how safe the city is for tourists.



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Seriously! What are some people's issues with Dublin?

    It might freak you out, dare I say it, Dublin is a cosmopolitan capital city. It's not 100% dubliners.

    Bit of an out there thought. Limerick, Galway, cork…its not all an indigenous population.

    Will ye all cop on. Stay at home and get jobs locally. Oh wait…you can't.

    Im a mongrel by the way. I embrace diversity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,895 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    This might be interesting from The 2022 Census.

    County of Birth for Population Born in the State Living in the Cities of Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford

    This section refers to the 1,283,130 people born in one of the 26 counties and who were living in the cities and suburbs of Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford.

    • Cork city and suburbs had the highest proportion (87%) of the population born in the same county (Cork).
    • Of the population born in the State and living in Dublin city and suburbs, the majority (86%) were born in Dublin (county). In addition, 2% were born in Cork, 1% in Galway and the rest in other counties.
    • Compared with the other cities, Galway city and suburbs had the lowest percentage of population who were born in the county (70%). Dublin-born people made up the next highest proportion of the population living in Galway (6%), followed by Mayo-born residents (5%).
    • Of the population living in Limerick city and suburbs, 82% were born in County Limerick. The other common places of birth were counties Dublin (3%), Cork (3%) and Clare (3%).
    • In Waterford city and suburbs, 80% of the population were born in County Waterford. The next most common birthplaces were Dublin and Kilkenny, both at 4%, followed by Cork, Wexford and Tipperary, each at 2%.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭slay55


    what on earth are you talking about? Why do I need to take a step back , what have I said in my post to come to that conclusion?


    I only highlighted that the alleged mugging happened in Dublin, is completely normal to be discussed in this particular thread and was reported by most media platforms.

    I think people who view Dublin as unsafe and dirty from their own perspective, are no more or less valid than your view, that Dublin is completely safe .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Not just the city centre suffering from apparent lawlessness, it's also rife in the suburbs where the Garda basically don't exist: https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/chaos-erupts-joyriders-block-main-32576898.amp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,179 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Hes injured so was just over for the jolly by the looks of it. Terrible optics and some solid fuel to the 'Dublins a kip' fire.

    l



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Nothing remotely like lawlessness in the city centre but scumbags rallying around priorswood in stolen cars is basically part of the culture there and nothing new, at least they do it in their own sh*thole area.

    why weren't coolock say no out doing something about this or whatever scumbags hung flags in the area?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭csirl


    He isnt on the teams 'active roster' and so, under league rules, is not allowed play or train with the team. Players out with long term injuries can be temporarily removed from the teans active roster, but if removed are forbidden from attending any on field team activities.

    He was on the trip for purely social reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    It's a non story. It's just in the news because he's a sportsperson. Dublin is in fact safe despite what social media tells you.

    Some people that never visit Dublin think it's dangerous.
    Some people that live in Dublin think it's dangerous.
    Some people that visit only for GAA matches think its dangerous.

    But the truth and the statistics remain. Dublin is a safe city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    My point was that there's basically no Gardai available to patrol these areas, one maybe two cars to patrol a massive area of North Dublin, which leads to the sense of lawlessness people have in these areas, as well as the feeling that the scrotes who do all this anti-social behaviour are free to do as they please without consequences..the Untouchables.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Well hopefully the protect are communities crowd so active in the area sort it out lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    What sense of lawlessness would that be? And what particular areas are you talking about



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I heard a 16 year old curse yesterday and my ears bled. They were from Cork. No reason for them to be south of the liffey.

    Feck sake lads. Dublin is one of the safest places in the world. Stuff happens, sure. Twice in my life I had grief. Once my own fault.

    Get over yourself or go home.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The sort of lawlessness that leads to such scenes in areas such as I linked to in the article? Or did you have something else in mind you'd like to bring up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Local people who stand up to those who commit such anti-social behaviour would soon find their own cars/home being attacked, and no Gardai to assist them or stop such crimes.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 26,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    I live in D13 and @Tenzor07 post is spot on, same group of people causing anti-social problems, gets worse every year as there is no Garda presence and even when the Garda do show up nothing is done, there is no consequences for their actions so they continue or up the ante.

    The lifeboat has set sail



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    And this is where the problem lies, the Gardai are trying to do their job but the justice system is letting everyone down, no prison spaces, suspended sentences,revolving door system etc.

    I'd regularly be in Groningen Arnhem and Utrecht in the Netherlands, and would visit at least two other European cities for short breaks every year and have never witnessed the scumbag carry-on that happened in Dublin city centre and some of the suburbs, it's the justice system that's failing the country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Ah don’t be ridiculous. AGS do great work and work tirelessly in the community. As for people who break the law, AGS do their job, if the courts let people off with charges, there must be a reason, I’m sure our judiciary implement the laws correctly. Always Gardai available to help citizens who need help, the fact that our prisons are full should tell you they do a good job. Just because you might not agree with the outcomes of some incidents is neither here not there. Teens being rowdy or engaging in ASB always come to the attention of AGS.
    You haven’t said which areas you believe are lawless with no Gardai presence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    There's no necessity for anyone to trawl the Internet when the newspapers are now reporting serious assaults on an almost daily basis. Does RTE now also need to "step back and examine their perspective" since an episode of last week's Prime Time had a section on anti - social behaviour in Dublin?

    The level of denial on this site about Ireland's crime problems is astonishing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Who told you I said I was in denial of any crime in Ireland? That’s a bizarre statement considering I’ve consistently pointed out the problems with crime and anti-social behaviour in Dublin, as well as the on-the-ground efforts I’ve personally been involved in to try and tackle them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    "It's a non story. It's just in the news because he's a sportsperson. Dublin is in fact safe despite what social media tells you.

    Some people that never visit Dublin think it's dangerous.
    Some people that live in Dublin think it's dangerous.
    Some people that visit only for GAA matches think its dangerous.

    But the truth and the statistics remain. Dublin is a safe city."

    Your own words. From an earlier post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Yes, well done. I admit there's crime, there's anti-social behaviour, there's drug use. Same in most parts of the country.

    But Dublin is still safe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭soverybored1878


    Because over there, the police force don't muck about. Try any of this stuff in Spain and Greece and you'd get a whack of a baton. Not saying it's a great approach by any means but it would certainly make some people think twice and perhaps show AGS a bit more respect.



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