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Is Dublin really safe? *Read OP for mod warning*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Interesting the way so many posters have now changed their tune from "there's no crime problem in Dublin, you're all hysterics exagerating things" to "Yes, there's a crime problem in Dublin, but it's no worse than London/Paris/Madrid etc. you're all hysterics exagerating things."

    Denial takes many forms, it would seem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    I don't believe anyone has ever said there is no crime in Dublin, have they? No one is that naive.

    It's just the level of crime that is being greatly exaggerated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    When did I say there's no crime in Dublin? Can you show me please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Try what in Spain? Pickpocketing is rife in some Spanish cities and I can think of 2 incidents of tourists being murdered in Barcelona in the last few years, including a Brit stabbed to death and a canadian being thrown off a bridge to his death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭soverybored1878


    What I was getting at was that Spanish police tend to have a zero tolerance policy on people acting the bollix.

    That's two incidents. Compare that to what has been reported here in this last year alone. 'Tourist in critical condition after assault' - seems to come up a lot. And that's in Dublin City which has a much smaller footprint than Barcelona.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Barcelona is probably worse. I'm just refuting your statement that spanish police are handling it well, this article is old but goes to show how bad it can be there (I loved my visits there btw)

    https://www.thejournal.ie/vigilante-patrols-in-barcelona-after-surge-in-crime-4780602-Aug2019/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,179 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Those same statistics are not going to reflect this incident according to AGS. So ya know, Lies, damned lies, and statistics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    No point engaging with you any further as you're obviously in denial about the level of crime in the country despite the weekly litany of incidents demonstrating that it's out of control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,169 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Dublin Live has reported that a man tried to abduct a woman in broad daylight in Dublin's North Inner City yesterday afternoon. Gardai said in a statement that the attempted abduction of the woman by the man took place in Mountjoy Square at 2:30pm on Monday the 29th of September 2025. No injuries were reported during the incident and investigations are ongoing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I’ve already addressed the issues multiple times, the decline, the lack of funding going back into the city, crime, it’s all there if you actually read the thread. don’t start throwing your toys out of the pram just because you're too lazy to look for them. I see crime, I see homelessness, I see drug taking, I see drug dealing, I see traffic violations, I see shops selling kitchen knives, I see construction, I see lots of things. But I don’t find it dangerous.

    I work in the city and spend plenty of time there, as does my wife. We don’t find it dangerous. Our teenage kids go in and out of the city too and they don’t find it dangerous either. That’s our experience. If yours is different, fair enough, maybe you’ve had incidents or bad experiences, but I haven’t. If my view of Dublin is different from yours and it upsets you this much, just put me on ignore.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Maybe you can have a look at the link I posted about the joyriding and point out all the Garda cars for me?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    What's the context? Was this a domestic incident involving people that know each other or a random abduction like that of Jastine Valdez in Wicklow? Did Dublin people save the woman from being abducted or did people just watch it and do nothing?



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I live in Dublin and still alive. Thoughts and prayers for me please. I could wake up dead tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Don't be advocating for that sort of action from the AGS or John Rambo will lose his ****. Based on his posts in other threads he thinks the little scotes should get a cuddle and a cup of tea.

    BTW I agree with you. I think the Gards should be a lot more physical when arresting scumbags. Actually saw a great takedown by a Gard outside a gas station before the Oasis gig. Trying to detain a guy after he randomly assaulted a random stranger. Scumbag was trying to get away and a few mates yelling at the Gard to let him go. Gard hip tossed him. Planted him on his face and held him there. Busted his face up. It was beautiful. Loads of people cheered and the scumbag's friends quickly realised they'd get a hiding if they tried to intervene so they ran off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Of course there’s crime here as there is in every city, nobody is denying that. That’s why countries need police and we have an excellent force who do an outstanding job. Some people think other police forces are tougher and do a better job but seem to forget that AGS are unarmed unlike other EU member states and most forces around the world. People might think a more draconian or armed force would put the frighteners on the boyos engaging in ASB or petty crime and they could be right, but that’s a risky road imo.

    Dublin is safe. It gets thousands of people from all over the country who travel here for sporting, music, educational, business and cultural events and those events pass off with very few isolated incidents because there is a constant garda presence who enforce the law, prevent crimes and maintain public order. Dublin gets huge number of tourists who never experience any crime. Many immigrants have happily made Dublin their home and never experience any crime. Most native Dubliners have never experienced any criminal incidents. It’s baffling how so many visitors and residents feel safe and secure in Dublin if it’s such a dangerous and lawless place as some posters say it is 🙄.

    Exaggeration and hysterics about sums it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,304 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    How often do these incidents need to happen before its considered unsafe? Where do you draw the line?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Where is actually safe is the question? Crime happens everywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Not sure what your point is. Are you saying AGS didn’t respond when that incident was reported on Sunday? No idea how any local station could know in advance exactly when ASB was about to happen, and afaik AGS act on reports of criminal incidents.
    It’s not possible for AGS to be in every place and corner 24/7/365 to prevent every case of unsocial behaviour or crime. Even if it was possible, who would want to live under such a regime. Afaik most people here don’t even want street cameras or ID cards, so can’t see much support for a Stasi type ‘eyes everywhere’ system. Didn’t we have something similar for hundreds of years and it wasn’t popular then either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Random attacks do happen in Dublin, just like in any major city, but they are not so common that the average person realistically has to live in fear of them every time they step outside. Dublin’s population is just over 1.2 million in the city proper, closer to 1.4–1.5 million if you include the metropolitan area. Add commuters, students, and tourists and you could be talking about two million people moving through the city on a busy day.

    Now, if random attacks were truly “very common,” you’d expect hospitals, Gardaí, and media to be saturated with cases every single day. Instead, while incidents do get reported (and of course they grab headlines), the sheer volume of people moving around the city without incident shows that they are relatively rare.

    Personally, I haven’t been randomly attacked in Dublin, neither have my parents, wife, or kids, all frequent visitors to what you would consider "dangerous" parts of the city and most Dubliners will say the same. If it was something people experienced all the time, it would dominate everyday conversation, not just social media threads or news flashes.

    The line really comes down to balance. Be aware of your surroundings, acknowledge that crime exists, but don’t let a few stories online convince you that stepping outside your door is reckless. Living in constant fear because of second-hand reports is almost as damaging as the crime itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    I don't live in fear. That doesn't mean I have to sit back and accept that regular random acts of savagery are the price you have to pay for living in a city.



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I've been on this earth for close to half a century. Mostly in Dublin.

    A nice day out for you and your family is to go to ikea and buy a mirror.

    Before you report my post you basically called all dubs scumbags.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    How many random acts of savagery have you been the victim of?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Everlong1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    A horrible incident but you are deciding to ignore the fact that at least 1.5 million people were in Dublin this week who didn't experience any crime



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Limerick, Galway ,cork, watererford…are paragons of virtue…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,256 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The bigger a population gets, the more attacks there will be. You'll get far more attacks in a city of 50 million people than in Dublin that only has half a million.

    Does this then mean that cities with larger populations are automatically less safe than cities with smaller populations?

    No it doesn't as that would be a silly nonsensical metric to go by.

    I mentioned earlier in this thread but it per capita crimes. How likely is it for you as a person to get attacked in Dublin.

    At the moment, highly unlikley. Therefore Dublin is safe.



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Everyone state where youre from! Whitechurch Dublin here. I don't fear for my life



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    North East Inner City, Raheny, Drumcondra, Fairview & Ringsend.

    Be not afraid. 



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