Is Dublin really safe? *Read OP for mod warning*

Potential-Monke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123765912#Comment_123765912

You dont have to love somewhere to not be negative about it. I dont have love for any city, but they're not all as bad a Dubland. But I'll leave that there, the Dubs are out en force to bukakke any negative opinions about "their" city. I will be staying away, as I have been, ye are doing tremendous help for me to keep that opinion on your problem free city thats just simply amazing...

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123765920#Comment_123765920

Why would anyone want your unhinged negative weirdo energy near any city?

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123765920#Comment_123765920

Cities are basically just a whole load of people living together in one spot as a community. For better or for worse.

From reading your posts over the years, you seem very bitter and angry towards people in general. So I could see why you wouldn't like a city. That's fair enough.

The common denominator though here is you and your misanthropy, not a million or so people from all different types of backgrounds living in the same spot.

Potential-Monke

I'll give you the misanthrope, but my sentiments are echoed by many far and wide. No wonder people won't comment on it here when they get ganged up on by the Dublanders telling them their personal opinions are wrong. And thats also where I'll leave it, because some of the Dublanders seem to be taking it way too seriously... and yeah, I'm sure the handful of Dublanders positively commenting on here represent the millions living there, many of whom are not there by choice but necessity due to employment and our Gubbermint thinking places outside Dubland don't exist.

Does boards no longer want opinions? Thought thats how this site used to work. Then again, I did step back a bit during the over-moderation years recently, guess it hasn't changed much.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123766167#Comment_123766167

You also display sheer ignorance about the city. You go on about “Dubland” as if it’s some kind of hellhole, yet you clearly don’t spend any meaningful time here. You complain about expense, but Dublin actually has some of the cheapest casual eateries in the country if you know where to look, not to mention free museums, galleries and cultural spaces that people from all over Ireland come up to enjoy.

What comes across in your posts isn’t balanced criticism but bitterness. You’re not pointing out flaws, you’re dismissing the entire place and the people in it with words like “scum” and “Dublanders.” That’s not a personal opinion, it’s a lazy stereotype.

Nobody minds you having your own preferences and opinions, but don’t mistake ignorance for insight. If you’ve admitted you rarely set foot in Dublin, maybe you should stop preaching about it to the people who actually live here and deal with its good and bad every day.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123766167#Comment_123766167

Of course people who like their lives here are baffled by the hatred of Dublin from the rest of ireland try to defend it somewhat. Nowhere else in Ireland seems to have any resentment towards it, but I'm sure if you went on an anti Galway or anti Cork rant, people who like living there would defend them as places too.

John_Rambo

I think it's particularly poignant when you meet people coming in to the country and enjoying it so much. The sheer contrast between the openness of young people working and living in the city and the bitterness of the middle aged man on the internet is very obvious when you spend time in the city.

I was working in a restaurant/bar in Dublin last night and, like most places across the city, the majority of the waiting staff were Brazilian or otherwise non-Irish. That’s just the reality of hospitality here, I’ve no idea where you’re meeting all these “local bred surly waiting staff” you keep mentioning, because they’re certainly not the ones I see every day.

And here’s the difference: all of them actually live in the inner city. They’re not sitting on forums moaning about Dublin, they’re out there living it. They love the city. They think it’s amazing. They’re in and out of free museums and galleries, the National Museum alone draws over 1 million visitors a year, the National Gallery almost 900,000, hardly signs of a city people avoid. They spend afternoons in the Phoenix Park, one of the largest urban parks in Europe (twice the size of Central Park), they’re along the Grand Canal or in Fairview and St. Anne’s Park, they’re at free gigs and festivals (Bloomsday, Culture Night, Pride, Bram Stoker Festival). They’re playing sport in local clubs, using pitches and gyms, training in Clontarf, Fairview, Ringsend… you name it. These are cultured people working in bars and restaurants, they're not Irish but have vastly more cultural experience of the capital than you will ever have.

Public transport? They’re on the bus, DART or Luas every day and the Luas alone carries around 48 million passengers a year. Social life? They’re in the pubs, cafés and clubs you keep dismissing as too expensive, but they’re finding early bird menus, student nights, and €5 pints in plenty of spots around town.

So when you paint Dublin as some kind of grim, unliveable hole, it says far more about you than it does about the city. The people actually living and working here, many of whom had the choice of cities around the world are thriving in it. They see the positives, they engage with it, and they make the most of what’s on their doorstep. Your version of Dublin only exists in your head (or maybe in your Facebook feed), because the regular media isn’t giving you the impression it’s a shithole.

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123765920#Comment_123765920

Where are you spending your time in Dublin? It sounds like you arent seeing any of the nice parts.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123766167#Comment_123766167

When I used to be quite active in the airsoft community, we had people we'd refer to as 'chair-softers' - the type who spend all their time online bickering about airsoft without actually going out to a site to play a game.

This posting wreaks of this type of thing. You seem to have very strong opinions on something you have little to no experience of.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123766355#Comment_123766355

Yeah. I don’t like shopping centres myself, Liffey Valley, The Pavilions, Mahon Point, they’re airless, sterile, and soulless. Reminds me of Dubai. But here’s the thing: I don’t spend my time on forums ranting about them, insulting the people who go to them, or acting like their existence is some personal affront. That’s what I find bizarre. Some people log on purely to pour hate on places and, by extension, the people who live or spend time there. I simply don’t get that mindset.

What’s even more telling is that when Dubliners come on to defend the city, they usually do it in an educational way, pointing out the positives, explaining what’s good, what’s changing, what's good to do. And more often than not, the detractors fall back on the same tired spoofs: claim they’ve “done it all already,” dismiss everything out of hand, and carry on with the negativity.

Necro

Mod: @Potential-Monke don't post in this thread again seeing as your only intention is to troll

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123751878#Comment_123751878

What kind of logic is this?

Just apply that to something like money, health etc, you'd be told to get help.

Sounds like you have your mind made up, regardless of stats or facts. Best of luck.

Yeah_Right

I see Potential Monkey isn't allowed to post here anymore, which is a shame as I had a question for them. Maybe someone else can answer it. What's with referring to Dublin as Dubland? Is it an insult or something? I'm not Irish so maybe theres something I'm missing.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123767182#Comment_123767182

When Potential-Monke writes “Dubland” he’s using it as a sneering nickname for Dublin. It’s meant to be dismissive, as if Dublin is some separate bubble that gets too much attention. The term also carries a kind of dig that Dublin is just full of “Dubs” but in reality the city is the most cosmopolitan and diverse part of Ireland, with people from every county in Ireland and from all over the world living, working, and socialising there. It further enhances the view that he really knows nothing about the county. But the countries full of people that don't know or appreciate Ireland.

Packrat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123758258#Comment_123758258

See i love these posts - "Looking at your previous posting history' - and then proves that they never looked at it all and that the entire long paragraph is a stock reply you throw out at anyone disagreeing with your blinkered pov.

I don't live in the suburbs - I live in Kerry. I don't hate Dublin. I lived there for a significant amount of time relatively recently and posted that I enjoyed living there. I have worked there about 25 days this year so far. I reported what i saw about how it has changed in ten years.

You didn't like any of this but couldnt refute it, so decided to make stuff up - as you regularly do.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123767999#Comment_123767999

Sorry, I thought you were from Artane in Dublin. I'm not making up stuff, I said I thought you were from the Dublin suburbs. From your posts it’s clear you’ve nothing but negativity towards Dublin. You constantly paint the city as unsafe, dirty, overpriced and badly run, always banging on about crime, neglect and how soulless it is. What’s striking is that you never seem to balance it with any of the positives Dublin actually has, like the culture, the free museums, the social life and the jobs. It just reads as sweeping generalisations, which is why people who actually live here keep pushing back at you.

Back on the topic, isn’t it fascinating that your rare trips to Dublin always seem to be marred by danger, hassle and constant run-ins with “crack zombies” and “paper cup scrotes” at every corner, while those of us who actually live in the city, or visit it far more frequently than you… simply don’t experience this supposed nightmare? It’s almost as if your perception of Dublin has more to do with exaggeration and selective memory than with the reality on the ground.

Galwayguy35

Another few years Dublin will be called tent city.

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123768245#Comment_123768245

When were you last in the city? There are hardly any tents now.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123768314#Comment_123768314

They will be back.

It's going to get bad mark my words.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123768366#Comment_123768366

Seems the CA immigration thread has sprung a leak.

billie1b

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123767243#Comment_123767243

Thats not my view or what the known term of the word "Dubland" is, being from Dublin but not lived there in a few years, still love the place though, never a tap of trouble for myself or any of my family, Dubland is the term Dublin and Gangland put together for people who know nothing about the place associating it with crime, drugs, murders, yobs etc etc all the time.

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123768366#Comment_123768366

Who is going to be living in these tents?

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123768412#Comment_123768412

Economic migrants with no documents.